Richard, The Contarex and Nikon F both came out in 1959. Jerry Richard Knoppow wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:21 PM > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Zeiss SLRs > > > Well, the AE1 was aimed at the consumer market too. > > However, it sold well. > > I am not familiar with the Zeiss SLRs, so please excuse me > > if I appear > > ignorant here. WHat I remember years back was seeing some > > Z-I SLRwith > > leaf shutter lenses that were interchangeable and had > > 1/500 secs top > > speed. They were all slow like 50mm 2.8, 135mm F4 os > > something like > > that. > > All I remember is they were Zeiss and out of business. I > > canno > > remember the Contarex. Perhaps that was a good camera, but > > I bet it > > was not inexpensive. > > > > Peter K > > > The Contaflex was a medium priced SLR using a leaf > shutter with a fixed rear cell and interchangable front > cells. Kingslake shows the lens. The rear is a Tessar rear > component. The front lenses vary. The 50mm, f/2.8 is a > Tessar, the wide angle (35mm, f/4) and telephoto (85mm, f/4) > are more complex. I don't know if this camera was meant to > compete with the Kodak Retina but it was made at about the > same time as the Retina Reflex and had similar features. > Kingslake also shows the lenses for the Retina Reflex, or at > least one version. The fixed rear cell is a half Biotar (or > Planar if you prefer) and all the attachments were faster, > the normal lens being f/2. It was probably a better camera. > The Contarex was a very high quality SLR with a set of > lenses which are reputed to be outstanding in quality. The > standard lens was a 50mm, f/2 Planar. There was a wide range > of lenses available for it. These still command good prices > as user cameras. > The Contarex had some shortcomings. One was the use of a > condenser in the finder with only a small circle of ground > glass at the center for focusing. The finder image is > exceedingly bright but is something like a "brilliant" > finder, not a real ground glass image. Also, the exposure > meter was not a TTL type but a front mounted reflection > meter. > The Contarex was just a little earlier than the Nikon F. > The Nikon F was a very well though out "system" camera with > good features and decent lenses. I think the Zeiss lenses > for the Contarex probably blow away most of the Nikon F > lenses. However, while I have and use a Nikon F I have never > used a Contarex to don't know personally. > I don't know why the Germans, or the US for that matter, > fell down so badly about SLR cameras, both 35mm and MF. > After all the first 35mm SLR is the venerable Exakta. Its > just that the Japanese were the only ones to see the > potential market of a really well designed SLR camera. Nikon > blew everyone else out of the water and then had trouble > themselves when the Canon SLR was introduced. > Kodak probably had the technology (and very certainly the > optics) but Kodak's "better" cameras always seemed to me to > be of surprizingly poor mechanical and ergonomic design. > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list