[rollei_list] Re: Tele-Rollei

The new TLR models use a fixed back, they are not
interchangeable and then you couldn't use the plate
back.

I'm sure the new 90º and 45º pentaprisms could be used
for an F model and that the old pentaprism can be used
for the new TLR models, the problem with the old
pentaprisms is that they darken the lightmeter five
leds in the viewfinder; and then I guess you could
interchange the WL finders hoods. I think it's
necessary to clarify that the focusing screens are not
interchangeable between the old and new models, the
GX/FX, FW and I guess the FT too use the 6000 system
focusing screens.

Robert White in UK is selling the new filters
adaptors:

http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/rollei.htm

All the best
Carlos



--- Robert Meier <robertmeier@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:

> 
> Carlos,
> 
> Thanks for all your information.   You could use a
> round 46mm or 58mm 
> screw-in lenshood with the new filter adapter,
> presumably.   Although it 
> would block the lower part of your view when it is
> over the taking lens. 
> B&H isn't listing this (yet).
> 
> Do the FW and FT allow use of the plate back?
> 
> You could use the WL finder from the Tele on the FT,
> right?   And from the 
> Wide on the FW?
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Robert;
>         Last year Rollei introduced two very
> ingenious
> filter holders for the TLR, BIII and BIV.
> This new accessory allows screw in filters to be
> fitted to Bay III and Bay IV fit TLR cameras, and is
> articulated, so that the filter can be used on
> either
> the top or bottom lens.
> 
> The BIII filters holders can use 46mm filters and
> the
> BIV 58mm filters and then you have a lot of filters
> and auxiliaries lenses available for the Tele. I
> guess
> the Tele Xenar will require a new lens hood.
> 
> The FT like the FW and the GX/FX cannot use the
> Rolleikin, however I think you can use the Rolleifix
> for the FT since you can use it for the FX and FW,
> Rollei still manufactures the Rolleifix. The
> brochure
> does not show a real camera.
> 
> I'm afraid the FT has the same viewfinder hood
> regarding the FW, it does not allow eye-level
> viewing,
> but the FX yes. It seems F&H wish you buy a prism.
> In the old Rollei FAQ page they said there was the
> intention about to manufacture a viewfinder hood
> identical regarding the old Rollei Wide viewfinder
> hood, but it was an intention only, at least til
> today.
> This is the new Rollei filter holder:
> 
> http://tinylink.com/?7Q1mS4yjZA
> 
> Clicking on the images you can see the filter holder
> works.-
> 
> All the best
> Carlos
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Robert Meier <robertmeier@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> 
> > Carlos,
> >
> > I have looked at the English pdf's that John Wild
> > has sent for the new Wide
> > and Tele Rolleis.   Neither one seems to have an
> > eyelevel finder built in to
> > the WL finder for the 50 or 135mm focal length,
> the
> > way the original W and T
> > Rolleis did.   Is that, in fact, the case?   What
> is
> > the WL finder that
> > comes with them?  something like the finder on the
> > Rolleicord Vb?   Or the
> > RolleiMagic?   No eyelevel focusing or viewing?
> > The finders also do not have the attachment studs
> > for the Rolleikin mask, so
> > you can't use the Rolleikin?  And no 220, I know.
> > And no automatic film
> > loading (but instead line-up-the-dot).
> > The Bayonet IV size for the Tele-Rollei is rather
> > intriguing.   Will Rollei
> > make a real tele lenshood?   (Unlike the regular
> Bay
> > III lenshood we have to
> > use on the old Tele-Rollei).   Will they make some
> > Rolleinars for the Tele?
> > Will there be a new line of Bay IV filters?
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Carlos Manuel Freaza"
> <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 3:14 PM
> > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Tele-Rollei
> >
> >
> > Yes, the brochure says "...Aufgrund des großen
> > Durchmessers des Tele-Xenars, ist das
> Filterbajonett
> > in der Größe IV ausgeführt..." and it's true,
> > however
> > I would like to see the results using the
> Rolleinar
> > for 1.35m focusing distance designed for the
> Sonnar
> > on
> > the Tele-Xenar and for the 1.5m normal focusing
> > distance; they wished a Tele different completely
> > with
> > respect to the old Tele and they accepted the B IV
> > when they selected the Tele-Xenar to replace the
> > Sonnar, it was part of the difference to avoid
> > confusions with the old Tele, and then there is
> > someting else than the Tele Xenar size behind the
> B
> > IV, it was explained in the former Rollei web
> site,
> > in
> > the FAQ page, when the FT project was delayed.-
> >
> > All the best
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> >
> > --- J Patric Dahlén <jenspatricdahlen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > escribió:
> >
> > > The brochure says that it has bayonet IV because
> > of
> > > the larger diameter of
> > > the Tele-Xenar. I don't believe there's another
> > > reason.
> > >
> > > /Patric
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Carlos Manuel Freaza
> > <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Reply-To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Tele-Rollei
> > > >Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:45:29 -0300 (ART)
> > > >
> > > > > Carlos,
> > > > >.... I wonder why they have gone to
> > > > > Bay IV -- it's still the
> > > > > 135mm f4 Sonnar, isn't it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > >I think the main reason for the B IV is to
> avoid
> > > >confusions with the accesories and Rolleinars
> > BIII
> > > >manufactured for the classical Tele-Rollei, the
> > new
> > > FT
> > > >has a different focusing distance and a
> different
> > > >lens, the lens is a Schneider Tele-Xenar 4/135
> mm
> > > HFT,
> > > >angle of view 33¨¬, 5 elements/3 groups,
> > > >made by Franke & Heidecke GmbH under Schneider
> > > >Kreuznach license.
> > > >There is a brochure in German language for this
> > > >camera, it has interesting graphics about the
> > lens
> > > >performance and DOF table:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>http://www.lecuit.lu/brochures/Db%20Rflex%204,0FT_DE.pdf
> > > >
> > > >All the best
> > > >Carlos
> > > >Bajonett IV, Entfernung ¡Ä bis 1,50 m.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> 
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