I had problems with black backdrops to - colorama made a beutiful totally dead mat black paper but the pro shop started selling Hama paper instead - I had decided to do a hole series shots for a book on ceramics on the black paper and was rather surprised when I openend the box and found "gun metal - bluish black half shining paper" I placed the objects as far as I could from the backdrop and then I used far to much time in photshop aftervards - I understand your problem - hope you find some really balck paper - preferably as soft deep mat as the paper you use for watercolour - in black that is ! all the best Ruben ----- Original Message ----- From: "John A. Lind" <jalind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:40 AM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Softbox Louver Effectiveness Questions > At 02:20 AM 4/18/2005, Ruben wrote: >>When describing you backdrop as low kee - does that mean that you whant it >>to be darker that it actually is ? >>cheers >>Ruben > > Ruben, > The backdrop I plan to use is "black" but I haven't seen one that is > truly, > completely black, just very, very deep charcoal gray. That's already very > low key and I want it to drop to completely black in the photographs . . . > Zone 0 . . . with absolutely no detail (indistinguishable from unexposed > film). Placing it well behind the subject material helps some. Blocking > light spill onto it will hopefully keep texture and any waviness (almost > impossible to eliminate) from showing very slight highlights and shadows . > . . a problem I've had a few times in the past using umbrellas. > > Thanks, > -- John Lind > >