[rollei_list] Re: Rolleinar 1 or Crop for Portraiture?
- From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:09:10 -0800
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From: "Eric Goldstein" <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 7:02 AM
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rolleinar 1 or Crop for
Portraiture?
I agree. There is a significant different between shooting
with a rolleinar
and cropping, and that difference is perspective as Emmanuel
exhaustively
explains ;-). You will see a difference in how the face is
drawn with the
two approaches.
That said, there have been wonderful examples of heads shot
by many of our
group members using both approaches. One of our group
members, Sanders
McNew, shoots a tele with rolleinar, which could still
maintain a
traditional camera to head distance depending upon which
rolleinar is used.
I use a .70 with my tele and like the results.
Eric Goldstein
--
I think the modern eye is much more tollerant to
perspective "distortion" than in the past. For one thing we
are used to seeing extra-wide-angle shots on TV, a once
slightly shocking effect which as become an affectation
along with various forms of shaky camera and slap zooms.
The "distortion" when using a normal WA lens, that is
not a fisheye lens, is really from viewing the image from
the wrong distance. If the eye is at the equivalent position
of the camera lens the distortion goes away. This is also
true of the distortion of shapes in the corners of pictures
taken with orthographic lenses (most camera lenses are
orthographic, i.e. reproduce straight lines as straight). If
you photograph a square grid, like graph paper, the
reproduced image will have all equal sized squares on it but
if you photograph an array of spheres, like a golf balls,
arranged in a grid pattern those at the corners will be
egg-shaped, unless... the photo is viewed with one eye at
the correct distance. Then the diminishing perspective in
_viewing_ will compensate and the shapes will be correct.
The same applies to portraits. If the image is viewed from
the correct distance the relative size of nose and ears will
be correct. We usually see people from some distance,
several feet, so faces often don't look right if seen from a
closer perspective in a photo. There is also the difference
between normal stereoscopic vision and the one-eyed version
of common photography. I think the eye sees somewhat
different outlines in the two kinds of images. I think this
is why people sometimes look fatter in photos than in real
life.
The old rule of thumb for portraits was to use a lens
with a focal length of from 1.5 to 2X the diagonal of the
plate. This sets the camera at about the right distance for
faces or head and shoulder shots. In fact, it also works
well for whole body photography. For a Rollei TLR the
effective focal length when using a Rolleikin is about
right.
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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