[rollei_list] Re: Rolleimot
- From: Marc James Small <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:42:34 -0400
At 02:25 PM 4/12/2010, Austin Franklin wrote:
>
>Well, just like the Hasselblad vs Rollei discussion in sales we had a short
>while ago, where the Mamiya was brought up as being a significant factor for
>Rollei sales decline...if there were no Mamiya, what other options would
>someone have had at that time?
>
>If there were two restaurants next to each other, and the only restaurants
>within a 50 mile radius, though you couldn't "prove" that one being there
>had anything to do with a decrease in the other's sales (as they both opened
>at the same time), it only stands to reason they did.
>
>Though I agree, your Mini-Cooper/Peterbuilt is an extreme exaggeration of
>little relevance. The Rollei and the Mamiya were far closer in use and
>function than a Mini-Cooper/Peterbuilt are.
Austin
Two questions.
First, specifically set out the sales figures for
Rolleiflex and Mamiya TLR's for the relevant
periods, say, from 1950 to 1980. And please
identify your sources. For once, the Wikipedia entries are of no help at all.
Second, specifically identify the years to which
you are referring. When was the Mamiyaflex
introduced? When did these cameras start selling
well? I do not want us to fall into the trap of
comparing 1958 Rolleiflex sales figures with 1978 Mamiya sales figures.
Third, can you produce one bit of evidence that
anyone ever bought a Mamiya camera after
considering the purchase of a Rolleiflex TLR? I
would be curious -- the Peterbilt/Mini-Cooper
analogy is dead on target, as anyone can attest
who has ever used a Mamiya TLR. (I have: I had
a complete Mamiya rig back in the early 1990's
for a couple of years.) The Mamiya is a Tripod
Queen, bluntly put. Fine lenses, decent
mechanicals, but heavy and clunky in use. I just
cannot imagine a photo-journalist picking up a
Mamiya and working a crowd scene. May have
happened, but I have never heard of this.
We really do need to keep the discussion focused on facts so far as we can.
Marc
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Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
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