[rollei_list] Re: Rolleimot
- From: CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 18:34:15 -0300
I wrote it in one of my first posts, there were two RC wires, one of
them for 3m (10 feet) and other for 200m (650 feet),
Carlos
2010/4/9 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Just found the information. I have an older Rollei Guide (Focal Press). It
> states the Rolleimot could be operated from 650 feet away. Wow! I think the
> electric cable to control that beast would have been quite expensive.
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I did see the remote:
>>
>>
>> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7YCYTkFybJY/S7-MO7F2SsI/AAAAAAAAAaM/5Wgbe2NXChA/s1600/Rolleimot+1+a.jpg
>>
>> So it would appear that this was really a motor drive more than anything
>> else. Wonder if anyone actually bought one for use? I mean, to take this to
>> a sporting event or a place where you would need to take consecutive photos
>> would be silly considering the size. Any idea of the number of photos per
>> second this allowed? Maybe 1 fps?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Carlos. OK. But you would still need a LONG Remote Control Wire.
>>> So I would imagine Rollei must have made them at one time and you would have
>>> had to ask for them to be fabricated to the length needed. Do you know what
>>> the maximum allowable length of those cords would be? Any idea where they
>>> were actually employed in use outside of Rollei's testing them before
>>> putting them on the shelf? To me it still seems like an expensive solution
>>> looking for a problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:37 PM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Peter:
>>>> The Rolleimot does not work the way you wrote below. The
>>>> only long cord is the Remote Control wire, in fact the Rolleimot
>>>> provides automatic shutter release via a short cable and automatic
>>>> film advance, the images in eBay are confusing because they "cut" the
>>>> short shutter release cable and then it seems two different cables.
>>>> BTW, being the power an internal source, within the Rolleimot body,
>>>> you can't see it, I uploded these two Rolleimot images, with camera
>>>> and without camera for a better understanding of its working:
>>>> http://itarphotos.blogspot.com/2010/04/rolleimot.html
>>>>
>>>> In the second image you can see the Remote Control wire.
>>>>
>>>> Carlos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/4/9 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> > OK, that makes sense. But you would still need a long "wired" cable
>>>> > release
>>>> > to take a picture. So it was designed for very specific applications.
>>>> > Maybe
>>>> > that is why they never sold many (or perhaps gave them away to certain
>>>> > institutions).
>>>> >
>>>> > You can pick one up cheap at KEH (under $200) --->
>>>> > http://www.keh.com/Product-Details/1/RT16999025940I/RT16/FE.aspx
>>>> >
>>>> > Or a mint one on ebay for $1000. Item #380221806610 (nice photos here)
>>>> >
>>>> > BTW, there is nothing to show an internal power, just a gray cord
>>>> > which I
>>>> > would assume could be from a 6v source of Ds or AC Adapter. Still you
>>>> > would
>>>> > need a very long shutter release cord. So very limited use of this
>>>> > device. I
>>>> > would say it is a solution looking for a problem rather than the other
>>>> > way
>>>> > around. May be one reason why F&H went bankrupt. Stupidity in building
>>>> > things for a market too small to provide revenue and ignoring the
>>>> > market
>>>> > (like the Medium format SLR market they forgot about until 1962) that
>>>> > would
>>>> > make them money.
>>>> >
>>>> > --Peter K
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:26 AM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Peter:
>>>> >> I insist, the Rolleimot has a 6v motor, the energy is
>>>> >> provided using four D size batteries, this is an internal power
>>>> >> source, no other electricity is necessary, however it allowed to use
>>>> >> a
>>>> >> transformer.
>>>> >> Rolleimot was manufactured along 6 years anyway, it costed DM 495 in
>>>> >> 1963, a Rolleicord Vb costed DM 360 in 1962 and a Rolleiflex T DM
>>>> >> 555
>>>> >> in 1961, it was an expensive accesory.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Carlos
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2010/4/8 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> >> > My problem is you would have to have electricity in those dangerous
>>>> >> > areas.
>>>> >> > Something that is hardly doable.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Marc James Small
>>>> >> > <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> At 02:47 PM 4/8/2010, Peter K. wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> The reason I am silent is that I work and travel. Do not always
>>>> >> >>> check
>>>> >> >>> this list. So I will say that I was perhaps wrong to call the
>>>> >> >>> Rolleimot a
>>>> >> >>> pig. The Rolleimot apparently had a "unique market" as you note.
>>>> >> >>> What
>>>> >> >>> market? Apparently no one really knows, but it must have been
>>>> >> >>> useful
>>>> >> >>> somewhere. You would need a long electric cord and a long remote
>>>> >> >>> cord,
>>>> >> >>> so go
>>>> >> >>> figure where this was applicable.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> As to Herr Prochnow. He was a nice man. I too corresponded with
>>>> >> >>> him,
>>>> >> >>> but
>>>> >> >>> would not call myself an expert because of that. Not sure why he
>>>> >> >>> did
>>>> >> >>> not
>>>> >> >>> return your emails, or those of Bob Shell. But he was quite
>>>> >> >>> accessible
>>>> >> >>> prior
>>>> >> >>> to his passing and I did write him on a number of occasions and
>>>> >> >>> received
>>>> >> >>> responses.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Peter
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> The Rolleimot was developed for technical applications in
>>>> >> >> dangerous
>>>> >> >> areas.
>>>> >> >> Seems pretty clear to the rest of us. What problem do you have
>>>> >> >> with
>>>> >> >> this
>>>> >> >> possibility?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I only obtained an e-mail address for Prochnow several months
>>>> >> >> before
>>>> >> >> his
>>>> >> >> death, and I suppose that is why he never replied to my missives.
>>>> >> >> No
>>>> >> >> problem. Bob Shell wrote him at length by snail-mail a few times
>>>> >> >> about
>>>> >> >> eight or nine years back and never got a response. For all I
>>>> >> >> know, the
>>>> >> >> letters were lost in the mail.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I was not complaining about my lack of direct contact with
>>>> >> >> Prochnow: I
>>>> >> >> was simply noting that Carlos had a vibrant and rich exchange with
>>>> >> >> Prochnow
>>>> >> >> for many years, and I did not. And I now know that you had
>>>> >> >> contact as
>>>> >> >> well.
>>>> >> >> As you properly note, there are only 24 hours a day, and all of
>>>> >> >> us
>>>> >> >> fail to
>>>> >> >> push things with sufficient vigor until the time for doing so is
>>>> >> >> past.
>>>> >> >> I
>>>> >> >> still have a dozen lens serial numbers to send Charlie Barringer
>>>> >> >> -- and
>>>> >> >> it
>>>> >> >> is too late now to do this. I should have done it three weeks
>>>> >> >> ago,
>>>> >> >> when it
>>>> >> >> might have made a difference, but I just could not find the Round
>>>> >> >> Tuit.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Marc
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> >> Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
>>>> >> >>
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