On Tuesday, April 06, 2010, at 11:15PM, "Marc James Small" <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >At 04:01 PM 4/6/2010, Laurence Cuffe wrote: > > >2) The most successful space program the world has ever seen was > >government funded. > > > >Let us not go there. Senate Majority Leader >Liein' Lyndon Johnson made damn certain that all >private ventures had to be run through >NASA. Thats not who I would have in mind. I was thinking more of this bunch: * 1957: First intercontinental ballistic missile, the R-7 Semyorka * 1957: First satellite, Sputnik 1 * 1957: First animal to enter Earth orbit, the dog Laika on Sputnik 2 * 1957: First animal to die in space, the dog Laika on Sputnik 2 * 1959: First firing of a rocket in Earth orbit, first man-made object to escape Earth's orbit, Luna 1 * 1959: First data communications, or telemetry, to and from outer space, Luna 1. * 1959: First man-made object to pass near the Moon, first man-made object in Solar orbit, Luna 1 * 1959: First probe to impact the Moon, Luna 2 * 1959: First images of the moon's far side, Luna 3 * 1960: First animals to safely return from Earth orbit, the dogs Belka and Strelka on Sputnik 5. * 1960: First probe launched to Mars, Marsnik 1 * 1961: First probe launched to Venus, Venera 1 * 1961: First person in space and in Earth orbit, Yuri Gagarin on Vostok 1, Vostok programme * 1961: First person to spend over a day in space Gherman Titov, Vostok 2 (also first person to sleep in space). * 1962: First dual manned spaceflight, Vostok 3 and Vostok 4 * 1963: First woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, Vostok 6 * 1964: First multi-man crew (3), Voskhod 1 * 1965: First EVA, by Aleksei Leonov, Voskhod 2 * 1965: First probe to hit another planet (Venus), Venera 3 * 1966: First probe to make a soft landing on and transmit from the surface of the moon, Luna 9 * 1966: First probe in lunar orbit, Luna 10 * 1967: First unmanned rendezvous and docking, Cosmos 186/Cosmos 188. (Until 2006, this had remained the only major space achievement that the US had not duplicated.) * 1969: First docking between two manned craft in Earth orbit and exchange of crews, Soyuz 4 and Soyuz 5 * 1970: First samples automatically returned to Earth from another body, Luna 16 * 1970: First robotic space rover, Lunokhod 1 * 1970: First data received from the surface of another planet (Venus), Venera 7 * 1971: First space station, Salyut 1 * 1971: First probe to orbit another planet (Mars), first probe to reach surface of Mars, Mars 2 * 1975: First probe to orbit Venus, first photos from surface of Venus, Venera 9 * 1984: First woman to walk in space, Svetlana Savitskaya (Salyut 7 space station) * 1986: First crew to visit two separate space stations (Mir and Salyut 7) * 1986: First permanently manned space station, Mir, which orbited the Earth from 1986 until 2001 * 1987: First crew to spend over one year in space, Vladimir Titov and Musa Manarov on board of TM-4 - Mir I could go on... Apart from the good natured ribbing, which I hope you will take in the sense in which it is meant, I agree with you that there is a lot to be said for private space ventures, and I think we are beginning to move into some interesting times in that area. Where I think NASA has done some interesting work is in the unmanned interplanetary probes, some of which have returned stunning imagery. All the best Larry --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list