It is. Another interesting discussion relative to aperture, DOF and perceived sharpness: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/dof2.shtml Eric Goldstein -- On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Austin Franklin <austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Not if the same "framing" is maintained. A common misunderstanding ;-) > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of CarlosMFreaza >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:59 AM >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rolleiflex 35mm Cameras >> >> >> I'm afraid you are wrong Eric, DOF is purely a function of aperture >> for a given lens (and given frame size), but if the lens focal length >> changes the DOF also changes if keeping constant f stop and circle of >> confusion size . You could play with this DOF calculator changing only >> the lens focal length and you'll see the way the real DOF area also >> changes: >> http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html >> Carlos >> >> 2009/11/10, Eric Goldstein <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx>: >> > It can be argued that DOF is purely a function of aperture and not FL. >> > >> > >> > Eric Goldstein >> > >> > -- >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:32 AM, CarlosMFreaza >> <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > > Well, "any" camera is a term general too much. DOF has to do first >> > > with the lens focal length and the frame size and the circle of >> > > confusion size you consider acceptable and second with the f stop; you >> > > could stop down a 300mm lens for a 6x9 format at f11 or 16 (to say >> > > something) and you could still have more deeper DOF with the Rollei 35 >> > > at f3.5, my point was that the Rollei 35 Tessar has a reasonable DOF >> > > and sharpness even wide open if you focus close to your desired >> > > focusing point, in other words, it is not necessary a telemeter under >> > > these conditions, perhaps this was not the topic central axis but it >> > > has to do with some messages I read in the thread. >> > > >> > > BTW, the "universal" camera does not exist yet, if you know your >> > > tools, you also know where and why to use them.- >> > > >> > > Carlos >> > > >> > > >> > > 2009/11/10, Marvin <marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >> > >> I think you missed the point Carlos, it's possible to stop >> the lens down and >> > >> have a large depth of field with just about any camera, but >> that doesn't >> > >> afford the individual much control. That's the problem with the 35. >> > >> Marvin. >> > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of CarlosMFreaza >> > >> Sent: 10 November 2009 17:01 >> > >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rolleiflex 35mm Cameras >> > >> >> > >> I rarely had problems guessing the distance with the Rollei >> 35, these >> > >> two samples were taken during a travel, with the Tessar wide >> open, 3,5 >> > >> 1/30 shutter speed and camera hand-held, the film was a Kodak Ultra >> > >> 400. The DOF is still deep at f 3.5 and the camera light meter worked >> > >> right. >> > >> >> > >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/1433112977/ >> > >> >> > >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/1456649900/ >> > >> >> > >> Carlos >> > >> --- >> > >> Rollei List >> > >> >> > >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >> >> > >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >> > >> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> > >> >> > >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >> > >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into >> www.freelists.org >> > >> >> > >> - Online, searchable archives are available at >> > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> --- >> > >> Rollei List >> > >> >> > >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >> >> > >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >> > >> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> > >> >> > >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >> > >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into >> www.freelists.org >> > >> >> > >> - Online, searchable archives are available at >> > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> > >> >> > >> >> > > --- >> > > Rollei List >> > > >> > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > >> > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >> > > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> > > >> > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >> > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org >> > >> > - Online, searchable archives are available at >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> > >> > >> --- >> Rollei List >> >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> >> - Online, searchable archives are available at >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> >> > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list