Carlos, Yes, and it is worth noting that fascism was not a German phenomenon but a European one. There was even a UK Fascist party and the King of England was a Nazi sympathiser... Americans like to divide the world into the good and the bad guys, but the world is not like that. Antonio ----Mensaje original---- De: cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx Recibido: 08/09/2006 0:12 Para: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TLR - The History by Ian Parker --- Allen Zak <azak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribiÃ: > Apart from those enabling the rise of fascism (Fritz > Thyssen again; Oh > the irony!), I don't hold mainstream German > businessmen of that time > as criminal for not confronting the regime. But > when it came to the > more odious directives, such as those violating > human rights, more > should have resisted. What they faced was possibly > prison, loss of > property, but very unlikely their lives, a small > price to pay for one's > soul. > > Businessmen like Oskar Schindler and John Rabe are > rare in any society, > but represent a higher standard than those who > accommodate. In that > context, Francke and Heidecke were not criminals and > they made a great > product. It could have been worse. That it wasn't > better; oh, well. Von Stauffenberg, Erich von Rommel deaths and hundreds of German militaries, politicians and civilians killed after the 20 of July 1944 attempt against Hitler demonstrate there was a serious German resistance against the Nazis and this attempt happened after other several previous attempts like the attempt against the Hitlers's airplane. Von Stauffenberg started to conspire against Hitler from 1942 in Russia when he disliked some SS actions and then the resistance was not an issue because Germany was losing the war. If someone did not put the Staunffenberg's briefcase behind one of the thick woods that supported the table where Hitler was talking that day in Ãstpreussen, the history could be different.- It would be a very large message and discussion, a complete OT to talk about the Nazism origin in Germany and why this party became so powerful in that country, but there were obvious extraordinary causes that can be known reading any objective History book, the causes justify nothing but they explain the history. All the best Carlos __________________________________________________ PreguntÃ. RespondÃ. DescubrÃ. Todo lo que querÃas saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, està en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ÂProbalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists. org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list