[rollei_list] Re: Rollei Flash

  • From: "Eric Goldstein" <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:07:39 -0500

Carlos -

In my experience, you cannot obtain anywhere near a similar look with
simple bouncing or light management as with this instrument. I've shot
a lot of boxes, panels, reflectors, scrims, the works in still and
motion picture; my own experience and the demos on that site
demonstrate that.

I do not agree with you and Alan; the flash bulb reflector cannot
account for the difference; all of Doc Eggerton's work demonstrates
that, as I posted earlier.

It is good that you see the difference between strobe and flash lamp,
and yes of course, the more you handle the light, the more the
differences are blurred, but to think that a simple reflector could
account for this difference is both inaccurate and counter-intuitive.


Eric Goldstein


On 1/10/08, Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Eric:
>          That lightsphere is very interesting really,
> but it is supporting Allen's message and my message,
> you can obtain similar effect bouncing the strobe
> light on a reflective surface using the right angle,
> there are some samples about a wedding taken with the
> Vivitar 283, (I use this flash):
> http://www.uscoles.com/bf283day.html
>
> I can see a difference between a direct flash light
> and a Rollei bulb flash shot, it is harder to see
> boucing a light ceiling with the strobe.-
>
> All the best
> Carlos
>
>
>
>
>
>  --- Eric Goldstein <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:
>
> > Hi Carlos -
> >
> > There is no question that the reflector has an
> > effect... here is one
> > of the nicer one's I know of for strobe:
> >
> > http://store.garyfonginc.com/liiido.html
> >
> > That said, I very much doubt the simple flash lamp
> > reflectors in use
> > at the time did much to manage the light in the
> > manner you are
> > speaking of... I think it is due to some of the
> > other factors we gave
> > been discussing...
> >
> >
> > Eric Goldstein
> >
> > --
> >
> > On 1/10/08, Carlos Manuel Freaza
> > <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > I have compared several photographs taken by my
> > father
> > > with the 2.8C and Rollei Flash -B&W prints- in the
> > > '50s and '60s regarding some photographs I took
> > using
> > > the same camera and electronic flash; the
> > photographs
> > > with bulb looks very good really, the light does
> > not
> > > produce so harsh shadows like the electronic flash
> > > used in the wrong angle, however I think Allen is
> > > right, the difference has to do with the
> > reflecting
> > > surface, the Rollei Flash light and the electronic
> > > flash light are identical when you bounce the
> > > electronic flash light on a white surface.
> > > I couldn't compare color photographs, I found old
> > > color prints taken with natural ligt only.
> > >
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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