Jerry: Check out these two fancy shootin' irons side by side: _http://www.bultransmark.com/images/BUL%20M-5%20Ultra-X.jpg_ (http://www.bultransmark.com/images/BUL%20M-5%20Ultra-X.jpg) No details on the Rollei 35 but specs on the M5: _http://www.bultransmark.com/Products_m5carry.htm_ (http://www.bultransmark.com/Products_m5carry.htm) Health, Peace Lance Selma, NC 27576 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In a message dated 10/4/2007 10:47:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tinycameraco@xxxxxxxxx writes: a 25cal automatic, with the right load, can do a great deal of damage. ........Just remember to pick up after yourself. There are some very fine 22 revolvers which leave nothing behind. Just consider your target: if you can get that close, a 22 is effective, quiet and safe. If your target is that far away, you should not be using a hand gun. My neighbor has a higher powered hand gun and thus far misses the racoons, as it were, but has shot his deck full of holes. I have always found the Rollei 35 a fine longer distance camera but I would not think they are useful up close. Horses for courses. Jerry Friedman ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com