[rollei_list] Re: Pistol Grip...my video clip

I forgot the roll film I have to do experiments to record the clip; main 
problem without film is that the transport crank does not have stop and then 
you don't know when to stop.
I leave the advance lever out using the Rollei grip, it's more practical; this 
is the way the shutter working was verified in factory and the way to use the 
Rolleimot. It's pretty easy with film in the camera, after you advanced the 
frame up to the stop, you need to go the advance lever back up to the upper 
stop (the starting position), the camera is ready to shoot; from the 2.8C 
manual, a more complicated explanation:
"When making exposure in rapid succession, it is unnecessary to fold down the 
crank each time. It remains locked in its starting position, ready for the next 
film advance, with a slight pressure of the thumb keeping it against its stop"

It really looks in your video clip you are comfortable holding the rig using 
the large flash column, my flash is different.
Thank you Elias.

Carlos


  


--- El jue 25-dic-08, Elias Roustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

> That's great Carlos - your video quality is much better
> than mine - I  
> had the same trouble with the film advance with my empty
> camera on my  
> video. If you look closely you can see that I turned one
> too many times.
> 
> Do you really leave the advance lever out when shooting?
> I've found  
> that it causes the shutter release button to stick unless I
> have it  
> back in the closed position. I must be doing something
> wrong.
> 
> As far as keeping the subject in view, I can actually do it
> more  
> comfortably with the rig held by the large flash in my left
> hand. It  
> is a heavy rig though... but the other night I got a really
> good shot  
> (from 7 frames - the others were still focus and well lit,
> only the  
> subject was not good) of my brother washing his 1 year old,
> who would  
> not sit still for a second. With practice, the Rolleiflex
> with  
> Rolleimeter on the pistol grip with a "Hammer"
> style flash is a very  
> fast shooter - almost as fast as an SLR, in low light maybe
> a little  
> faster. But what do I really know, I'm just an amateur
> with a really  
> cool toy. Enjoying it just the same. Gives me healthy sense
> of  
> respect for the professionals of yesteryear.
> 
> Elias
> 
> On Dec 25, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:
> 
> > Elias:
> >        I think your method is good and safe if you
> don't need to  
> > maintain the subject framed for other photograph, I
> did a video  
> > clip lower resolution than yours about the way I use
> the Rollei  
> > grip, however I'd like to do the following
> clarifications:
> >
> > 1)The firsts seconds are supposed to focus the subject
> turning the  
> > focusing knob with the left hand. I forgot to do it.
> > 2)I lose film advance crank "feeling"
> without film, the crank  
> > advance becomes light too much and I lost time paying
> attention to  
> > the crank, I do things more quick with film ( I
> don't fold -unfold  
> > the crank).
> > 3)I knew I was doing a videoclip and became
> "nervous".
> >
> >
> http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-8568288160046005401&hl=es
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> > --- El dom 21-dic-08, Elias Roustom
> <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> >
> >
> >> Yes, Carlos and Richard it works beautifully. I
> got the hang
> >> of it right away - quite natural. A little awkward
> with wool
> >> gloves on while romping through foot deep snow
> with my dog.
> >>
> >> My daughter and I made this very low res video
> file to show
> >> how the advance is done with the right hand while
> using the
> >> big Sunpak flash:
> >>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1722756263726713433&hl=en
> >>
> >> What can I say, school's out for the holidays
> and
> >> I've got to keep her busy.
> >>
> >> You can also see the rig (or kit) with the Sunpak
> here:
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/elroustom/3126687912/
> >>
> >> Elias
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 21, 2008, at 4:40 PM, Richard Sintchak
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sory, "advice" should be
> >> "advance"....
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Richard
> Sintchak
> >> <rich815@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> While it may sound awkward try using the
> left hand
> >> to advice, just
> >>>> tilt the whole rig over slightly reach the
> left
> >> hand over and crank,
> >>>> never taking the right hand off the grip. 
> I
> >> believe that how it was
> >>>> designed to work.  It's very capable
> and
> >> ergonomic that way. Try it.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Richard S.
> >>>> San Francisco
> >>>>
> >>>> My Photography Website
> >>>> http://www.lightshadowandtone.com
> >>>>
> >>>> My Flickr River
> >>>>
> >>
> http://flickriver.com/photos/rich8155/popular-interesting/
> >>>>
> >>>> My Commute Photo Blog
> >>>> http://shootingonthefly.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Elias
> Roustom
> >> <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks to all who chimed in on my
> inquiry into
> >> the pistol grip. I've got a
> >>>>> pretty good kit put together now.
> >>>>> You can see it with a Canon speedlight
> 199A to
> >> the grip
> >>>>> here:
> >>
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3293/3124302150_48b558c797.jpg.
> >>>>> I've run roll through with an even
> older
> >> Sunpak 3400 (hammer style). Big
> >>>>> rig, but looks even more impressive,
> and a
> >> little faster to use as the
> >>>>> flash's column is sturdy enough to
> hold
> >> with the left hand while the right
> >>>>> lets go of the pistol grip to advance.
> Flash
> >> photography with Rolleiflex
> >>>>> adds another dimension, and about six
> more
> >> orders of difficulty, but it's
> >>>>> fun.
> >>>>> Elias
> >>>>> On Dec 7, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Carlos
> Manuel
> >> Freaza wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Elias, I repeat the URL for the
> equipment
> >> setup photograph, my message
> >>>>> apperead in the list, perhaps you did 
> not
> >> receive it (please let me know if
> >>>>> you could see the image).
> >>>>> It's the third photograph, I wrote
> >> it's not a good scanning due to I used my
> >>>>> old scanner:
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://dobleobjetivo.blogspot.com/2006/10/some-rollei-tlr- 
> >> cameras.html
> >>>>> Carlos
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- El dom 7-dic-08, Elias Roustom
> >> <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> De: Elias Roustom
> <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: Pistol Grip
> >>>>> Para: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Fecha: domingo, 7 de diciembre de
> 2008, 9:50
> >> pm
> >>>>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>>> Mark and I mean a photo of the camera
> with the
> >> pistol grip
> >>>>> and the
> >>>>> flash - I found the URLs for the two
> photos
> >> you took
> >>>>> (beautiful), but
> >>>>> I could not find any URL for a photo
> of the
> >> camera. Is
> >>>>> there one?
> >>>>> Jerry - I don't mean I want a
> photo posted
> >> to the list,
> >>>>> I mean a link
> >>>>> to a photo posted elsewhere.
> >>>>> Elias
> >>>>> On Dec 7, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Carlos
> Manuel
> >> Freaza wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you read my first answer to your
> post, I
> >> wrote the
> >>>>>
> >>>>> URL for two
> >>>>>
> >>>>> photographs taken using the set-up and
> I also
> >> wrote
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the URL about
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the setup photograph.-
> >>>>> Carlos
> >>>>> --- El dom 7-dic-08, Mark Rabiner
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> escribió:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> De: Mark Rabiner
> <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: Pistol Grip
> >>>>> Para: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Fecha: domingo, 7 de diciembre de
> 2008, 9:34
> >> pm
> >>>>> Lets see a picture that setup takes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Mark William Rabiner
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: Jerry Lehrer
> <glehrer@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Reply-To:
> <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 12:01:15 -0800
> >>>>> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Pistol Grip
> >>>>> Sorry, but the RUG won't accept
> photos
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Elias Roustom wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 7, 2008, at 5:21 AM, Carlos
> Manuel
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Freaza
> >>>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> to use an electronic flash via a flash
> >>>>>
> >>>>> bracket
> >>>>>
> >>>>> attached to the Rollei
> >>>>>
> >>>>> grip.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How does that work? Does anybody have
> a
> >>>>>
> >>>>> picture of
> >>>>>
> >>>>> that setup?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> E.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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