[rollei_list] Re: Peter Negergal? Any buy Rollei's from him? I paid, no camera, no response....

Allow me to repeat Slobadan:

I specifically wrote him in an email the following before purchasing this
camera:

"May I assume the lens is clean and clear?  Film advance and shutter all
work ok? How's the mirror and ground glass?"

His DIRECT response reply to the above:

"Lens is pretty good.  Xenar 3.5.  Works well.  I think you'll like the Cord
V."

Not "oversold"?  Are you serious?  Do you actually think he was completely
honest and upfront in answering my direct question?  For what I got I paid
about $100 too much.  I've paid $50 for Rolleicords in better shape than
this one.

Thanks for accusing me of whining...personally I think I was 100% ripped off
and misrepresented to.


On 6/23/08, slobodan dimitrov <s.dimitrov@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I'll have to come to Peter's defense. The cameras were not over sold. For
> the price, they are what they are, cameras which needed some attention. His
> use of the following descriptive language, such as "all are usable or
> better...weathered but working...beater Automat," did  not leave any doubts
> about the condition of the cameras.
> My Automat was a borderline basket case. I had to add a couple of drops of
> lighter fluid to free up the shutter. I took out a rivet which was bidding
> the front panel, as it couldn't reach infinity. The leather was replaced
> with a new set from Cameraleather, which was quite a feat as the camera was
> put together from parts of cameras from other eras. I took apart the
> focusing lens to clean out the haze.
> Once I calibrate the focus, then I'll run some film through it.
> And you did not hear me whine about it all. It was actually quite
> therapeutic, sitting in front of the TV, watching the Euro cup 2008 games,
> and cleaning up the little beast.
> s.d
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2008, at 5:56 PM, Richard Sintchak wrote:
>
>  Yeah, surprisingly it arrived the next day I wrote that email to the list.
>>  In his defense he did actually send on June 2nd as he said he did but not
>> priority air, regular air.  Took 3 weeks!  Maybe the floods in the midwest
>> delayed things.  Thing is he sent it to my home and not my work address.  I
>> specially asked him to send it to my work address and it was the only
>> address I gave him.  I have no idea how he got my home address unless it was
>> on the bank bill pay check I sent. Strange. Lucky I got it at all as the
>> postman leaves packages out in a common area of my loft complex and that's
>> why I have packages like this sent to my work.
>>
>> Worst part is the Rolleicord he sold me is also flithy, with the leather
>> peeling everywhere, metal edges rusting in numerous places (and no the box
>> had nothing that would have indicated some kind of flood damge in transit),
>> knob covers missing, the shutter speeds inoperable under 1/30th, fungus/mold
>> on a lens and with loads of microscratches and the film advance does not
>> work, or works intermittently, often stopping at frame 2 and going no
>> further.  I wasted three rolls olf film trying to get it to work at all.
>>  The mirror is ghastly and filthy as well, as was the focusing screen.  It
>> appears to have been left in someone's moldy basement and not used in years.
>> I am not pleased in the least.
>>
>> I specifically wrote him in an email the following before purchasing this
>> camera:
>>
>> "May I assume the lens is clean and clear?  Film advance and shutter all
>> work ok? How's the mirror and ground glass?"
>>
>> His response;
>>
>> "Lens is pretty good.  Xenar 3.5.  Works well.  I think you'll like the
>> Cord V."
>>
>> Now how in the world he reconciled that with the camera I received is
>> simply beyond belief.  Since he still has not even replied to my three
>> messages asking about his shipping method and to confirm the address I
>> cannot believe he'll respond to any email expressing my dissatisfaction with
>> the camera and my wanting to return it for misrepresenting the condition.
>>  Oh well.  Lesson learned.  $110 USD down the drain for an ugly doorstop.
>>
>> Shame too.  I bought one of his books a couple years back and he seemed a
>> nice guy in the email exchange as part of that purchase.  I simply cannot
>> understand how people can represent such a piece if crap so completley
>> inaccurately.  I guess I was raised differently.
>>
>>
>> On 6/23/08, Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Richard,
>>
>> Any news on your camera? Well, I just sent the camera I bought from him in
>> for review/repair. Apparently I now know why he unloaded it at the price he
>> did. It was not only the filthiest camera I have ever seen but the alleged
>> CLA must have been done years ago or by an inept novice. The shutter was not
>> working properly and the focus is out of sorts. Geez. Never again.
>>
>> How are you otherwise. You are in San Francisco correct?
>>
>> Peter K
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Richard Sintchak <rich815@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> Does anyone personally know Peter J Nebergal (iusar4s@xxxxxxxx)?  He
>> posted for sale a couple of Rollei's on this list about a month ago.
>> We communicated (albiet a bit slowly back and forth) and agreed to a
>> deal on a Rolleicord.  He confirmed receipt of my funds (bank check)
>> and said he sent it out from back east about 3 weeks ago.  I have
>> received nothing as of today.  I emailed him three times in the last
>> week or so asking him to confirm the address he shipped to and the
>> service he used for shipping but have not heard back at all.  Hoping
>> it's just a misunderstanding because it all seemed on the up and up,
>> but does anyone have any info on him or know him?  Anyone else buy
>> from him successfully from that posting?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Richard S.
>> San Francisco
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