[rollei_list] Re: Peter Nebergall? Any buy Rollei's from him? I paid..

Well folks, 
Mr Nebergall logged onto his MySpace page yesterday and listed his mood as  
"disgusted" for whatever that is worth:  _http://www.myspace.com/pjnebergall_ 
(http://www.myspace.com/pjnebergall) 
 
He also has a website of sorts so you may be able to track him down through  
it: _http://www.peternebergall.com/_ (http://www.peternebergall.com/) 
 
In this case you might have done better scrounging ebay for a decent  
Rolleicord for about the same money or buying a clean, working Z-I Ikoflex  
from me 
this Friday...   'course we're all interested in Rollei  products here so I 
understand the desire for a genuine Rolleicord from a long  time list member 
which in itself implies some kind of warranty, no?
Health, Peace
Lance
Selma, NC 27576
 
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In a message dated 6/24/2008 1:45:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rich815@xxxxxxxxx writes:

Allow me  to repeat Slobadan:

I specifically wrote him in an email the following before purchasing this  
camera:
 
"May I assume the lens is clean and clear?  Film advance and shutter  all 
work ok? How's the mirror and ground glass?"
 
His DIRECT response reply to the above:
 
"Lens is pretty good.  Xenar 3.5.  Works well.  I  think you'll like the Cord 
V."

Not "oversold"?  Are you  serious?  Do you actually think he was completely 
honest and upfront in  answering my direct question?  For what I got I paid 
about $100 too  much.  I've paid $50 for Rolleicords in better shape than this 
one.  

Thanks for accusing me of whining...personally I think I was 100%  ripped off 
and misrepresented to.



On 6/23/08, slobodan  dimitrov <_s.dimitrov@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
(mailto:s.dimitrov@xxxxxxxxxxx) >  wrote:  
I'll  have to come to Peter's defense. The cameras were not over sold. For 
the  price, they are what they are, cameras which needed some attention. His 
use 
 of the following descriptive language, such as "all are usable or  
better...weathered but working...beater Automat," did  not leave any  doubts 
about the 
condition of the cameras.
My Automat was a borderline  basket case. I had to add a couple of drops of 
lighter fluid to free up the  shutter. I took out a rivet which was bidding the 
front panel, as it  couldn't reach infinity. The leather was replaced with a 
new set from  Cameraleather, which was quite a feat as the camera was put 
together from  parts of cameras from other eras. I took apart the focusing lens 
to 
clean  out the haze.
Once I calibrate the focus, then I'll run some film through  it.
And you did not hear me whine about it all. It was actually quite  
therapeutic, sitting in front of the TV, watching the Euro cup 2008 games,  and 
cleaning 
up the little beast.
s.d  



On Jun 23, 2008, at  5:56 PM, Richard Sintchak wrote:



Yeah, surprisingly it arrived  the next day I wrote that email to the list.  
In his defense he did  actually send on June 2nd as he said he did but not 
priority air, regular  air.  Took 3 weeks!  Maybe the floods in the midwest 
delayed  things.  Thing is he sent it to my home and not my work address.  I 
specially asked him to send it to my work address and it was the  only address 
I 
gave him.  I have no idea how he got my home address  unless it was on the bank 
bill pay check I sent. Strange. Lucky I got it  at all as the postman leaves 
packages out in a common area of my loft  complex and that's why I have 
packages 
like this sent to my  work.

Worst part is the Rolleicord he sold me is also flithy, with  the leather 
peeling everywhere, metal edges rusting in numerous places  (and no the box had 
nothing that would have indicated some kind of flood  damge in transit), knob 
covers missing, the shutter speeds inoperable  under 1/30th, fungus/mold on a 
lens and with loads of microscratches and  the film advance does not work, or 
works intermittently, often stopping at  frame 2 and going no further.  I 
wasted three rolls olf film trying  to get it to work at all.  The mirror is 
ghastly and filthy as well,  as was the focusing screen.  It appears to have 
been 
left in  someone's moldy basement and not used in years. I am not pleased in 
the 
 least.

I specifically wrote him in an email the following before  purchasing this 
camera:

"May I assume the lens is clean and clear?  Film advance and shutter all work 
ok? How's the mirror and ground  glass?"

His response;

"Lens is pretty good.  Xenar 3.5.  Works well.  I think you'll like the Cord 
V."

Now how in  the world he reconciled that with the camera I received is simply 
beyond  belief.  Since he still has not even replied to my three messages  
asking about his shipping method and to confirm the address I cannot  believe 
he'll respond to any email expressing my dissatisfaction with the  camera and 
my 
wanting to return it for misrepresenting the condition.  Oh well.  Lesson 
learned.  $110 USD down the drain for an  ugly doorstop.

Shame too.  I bought one of his books a couple  years back and he seemed a 
nice guy in the email exchange as part of that  purchase.  I simply cannot 
understand how people can represent such a  piece if crap so completley 
inaccurately.  I guess I was raised  differently.


On 6/23/08, Peter K. <_peterk727@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:peterk727@xxxxxxxxx) > 
wrote: Richard,

Any news  on your camera? Well, I just sent the camera I bought from him in 
for  review/repair. Apparently I now know why he unloaded it at the price he  
did. It was not only the filthiest camera I have ever seen but the alleged  CLA 
must have been done years ago or by an inept novice. The shutter was  not 
working properly and the focus is out of sorts. Geez. Never  again.

How are you otherwise. You are in San Francisco  correct?

Peter K

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Richard  Sintchak <_rich815@xxxxxxxxxx 
(mailto:rich815@xxxxxxxxx) >  wrote:
Does anyone personally know Peter J Nebergal (_iusar4s@xxxxxxxxx 
(mailto:iusar4s@xxxxxxxx) )?  He
posted for sale a couple of Rollei's on this list about a  month ago.
We communicated (albiet a bit slowly back and forth) and  agreed to a
deal on a Rolleicord.  He confirmed receipt of my  funds (bank check)
and said he sent it out from back east about 3 weeks  ago.  I have
received nothing as of today.  I emailed him  three times in the last
week or so asking him to confirm the address he  shipped to and the
service he used for shipping but have not heard back  at all.  Hoping
it's just a misunderstanding because it all seemed  on the up and up,
but does anyone have any info on him or know him?  Anyone else buy
from him successfully from that  posting?

Thanks,

Richard S.
San  Francisco
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