[rollei_list] Re: [OT] film vs digital

I was on a panel judging printing (for awards, etc.) for a regional 
organization. One of the entries was a digital piece. We didn't know who to 
give the award to, the press that produced and sold it, or Epson, so we passed 
on that category altogether. 
   Many fellow artists are drawn to digital output for everything from artists 
books to broadsides and postcards, but I know that many of them learn to live 
with what comes out, or manipulate what they can understanding the limitations 
before creating. So it's selection of end results rather than control. For very 
talented people, the medium is secondary to that selection process that yields 
what get signed and numbered. For everyone else it's luck or adjusted 
expectations that produce good results. The digital media add another element - 
that of the intentions of engineering and sales teams. It's not so different 
from when Kodak changes Tri-X, but all the steps Sony and Epson save us, remove 
us by multiple degrees from the essence of the effort and the product. If 
there's anything wrong with digital it is that.
   Of course on the flip side, analog photography is difficult and expensive 
and inacessible to most - even many fine artists. I see my friends books and 
prints, and am duly impressed by the content and even the output, and I know 
that if it weren't for their PCs and printers, their works would not come to 
life.

This has been a very interesting discussion. One would think this topic is 
tired and it's outcome settled, but everytime it comes up it raises more 
questions and adds more depth. 

Elias

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Frank, I was answering other different messages, I
> still think traditional photography is more valuable
> from an artistic point of view than the digital image
> talking about final products you could consider art
> expressions, I hope to see some distinctive stamp for
> the digital art in the future to change my opinion.-
> 
> All the best
> Carlos  
> 
> 
> 
> --- Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> escribió:
> 
> > This was exactly the main point I had been trying to
> > make in my first  
> > reply to you about art. Sorry I made my point so
> > badly that you had  
> > to make the same point several days and posts later.
> > I really should  
> > try to be more clear.
> > Sorry,
> > Frank
> > 
> > On 24 Jul, 2007, at 17:12, Carlos Manuel Freaza
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Eric, I regret you did not get the irony in my
> > > message, I only meant the issues about art, fine
> > arts,
> > > masterpices, etcetera are very wide.
> > > BTW I agree with you about the real cause for the
> > > price, according some comments in the web it was
> > the
> > > rarity of the print.-
> > >
> > > All the best
> > > Carlos
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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