[rollei_list] Re: OT: Vinyl and CD's
- From: Eric Goldstein <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:43:45 -0500
Hi Peter -
My hero is Thor! ;-)
Eric Goldstein
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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> arguable Marc. No pops and crackles on a CD. And smaller to store and I can
> play it in a car. But as we age we cannot hear "quality" as we once did. So
> whether vinyl is better we cannot really hear it. (Waiting for Eric to
> comment here. :-))
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Marc James Small <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> At 09:27 PM 3/3/2009, Robert Lilley wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, yes Peter I own and regularly play a Victoria VV VI. The
>>> acoustic fidelity is quite good.
>>>
>>> It is interesting to note why vinyl LPs disappeared rapidly during the
>>> mid 80's. It wasn't because CD were better. They were not. It wasn't
>>> because vinyl was an old, outdated media. It is argued that like film vs.
>>> digital pictures, vinyl LP's have more data than the average CD and
>>> certainly more than MP3 files. It was because LP's cost more to produce
>>> than CDs and the record industry found they could make more money selling
>>> CDs. What the industry did was to refuse unsold LP returns while allowing
>>> returns of CDs. Seemingly overnight, the record stores switched over to CDs
>>> and vinyl was relegated to those like myself who remember how good music
>>> used to sound.
>>>
>>> Its not how much better something is that causes change - its how much
>>> money somebody can make if it does.
>>
>> That is perhaps a marginal stretch but not totally untrue. I am speaking
>> as a guy who invested in a really nice linear-tracking turntable in 1985.
>> Still have it, and it still works great. Never have had to replace the
>> cartridge or needle. It just keeps on keeping on. But it was expired
>> technology when I bought it, though I did not realize that, anymore than the
>> folks buying the current production of 2.8FX's realize that they are buying
>> "expired technology".
>>
>> CD's won primarily because of convenience and the reality that, with
>> electronic gear, prices plummet as volume goes up. By 1989, a quality CD
>> player cost substantially less than did a turntable, and was a hell of a lot
>> easier to use. That was the prime reason.
>>
>> The second reason is one to which you speak. Small recording studios were
>> able to get into a vast archive of older music -- rock-'n'- roll, country,
>> classical, jazz, blue grass, ethnic, and remaster it and then produce it on
>> CD's you could buy for $6.99. I used to pay $15 or more for a 45-rpm from
>> 1960 but, by 1980, I could find the tune on SMASH HITS OF 1960 from K-Tel or
>> Groove Records or whoever.
>>
>> Still, a quality vinyl album on a quality turntable and amp and system
>> will give you a much richer sound with vastly greater frequency response
>> than will the best commercial CD rig. I do not have the ear to appreciate
>> this save in a few quiet places -- on vinyl, you can sometimes hear the
>> musicians flipping over their scores during a pause, and that sort of detail
>> just is absent from CD.
>>
>> This is much like film versus digital. Digital is convenient but, for
>> years to come, film will produce better quality even if we are not capable
>> of recognizing the distinction. But, to me, it is important that I am
>> producing something that is the very best possible.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
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