[rollei_list] Re: OT - Super Ikonta 6x6 532/16 Film Winding Anomaly
- From: Peter J Nebergall <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:34:48 -0800
The red window is to help you position frame #1, allowing the automatic
counter to follow. That's ALL its for. My 532/16 came with instruction
book.... And I've Never had frame overlap.
P.J. Nebergall
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:51:39 -0500 "Robert Lilley"
<54moggie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> Sorry for the off topic but thought I'd run this one by you all. A
> year and
> half ago I sent my Super Ikonta 532/16 B to Henry Schere in
> California for
> an overhaul. Well, the camera is now being worked on and as such I
> talked
> to Henry about defeating the exposure interlock on the camera. As
> you may
> know this camera suffers from overlapping frames especially in the
> beginning
> of the roll. This is supposedly because the camera was designed to
> use
> Zeiss film which was thicker than what is available today. I
> figured if
> Henry could defeat the interlock that prevents double exposures, I
> could
> position the next frame in the camera using the red window on the
> back. The
> film counter would tell me the frame and the little number in the
> window
> would tell me it was spaced properly. What follows is Henrys
> response after
> trying all this out. According the Henry, Zeiss made a mistake. Has
> anybody
> ever come across this or noticed this before? Thanks for your time.
>
> Rob
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Our plan to defeat the automatic wind frame stop mechanism was
> undone by
> Zeiss. I tested your camera with a roll of film to see how closely
> the film
> counter matched the red window and got taught a new and very big
> lesson that
> has gone unnoticed and unrevealed to anyone until now. Here it is:
> The red
> window and the frame counter did not match and they did not match a
> lot.
> When the camera frame counter read "11" the red window read "8".
> The
> problem turns out to be very simple and there is no fix for it.
> Inside the
> back of the camera is the notation embossed into the metal "B 2 1/4
> x 3
> 1/4". The camera is a 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 camera and a 2 1/4 x 2 1/4
> camera and
> so the red window is positioned to read the numbers on the film
> backing
> paper for nine exposures total which is for a 2 1/4 x 3 1/4 camera.
> Now, if
> look at the Zeiss Ikon catalog the Super Ikonta "B" is supposed to
> be a
> 2 1/4 x 2 1/4 camera. So the back is wrong in two ways. The first
> is that
> it should be embossed "2 1/4 x 2 1/4" instead of "2 1/4 X 3 1/4" and
> the red
> window should be positioned in the middle of the back instead of at
> the top.
> Having figured all this out I decided to check out my two Super
> Ikonta B
> parts bodies to see if I had a real "B" back with the right size
> marking
> with the window in the right place and guess what, both of them were
> just
> like yours and one was made before the war and one was made after
> it. So
> here's what happened. Zeiss screwed it up and made a million wrong
> backs
> and decided to use them rather than dump them. It's likely that so
> many
> backs had been made there never was a chance to correct the mistake.
> After
> all, it didn't matter because the film wind was automatic and no one
> would
> notice the difference. Well, it wouldn't be noticed until now. So
> I'm
> going to go ahead and restore the automatic film wind interlock on
> your
> camera and that will be that. If ever it happens that someone sends
> me a
> Super Ikonta B with the right back I'll be sure to let you know but
> I don't
> think this will ever happen."
>
>
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