[rollei_list] Re: OT: Re: Rollei Digital (Junk)! Windmill Presses

There's still a few guys left here shooting film of comps and then  
running offset presses. Some technologies take a long time to die -  
if ever. I get offered a copy camera about once a year... It's  
tempting to have a camera that takes up a room.

Now comparing offset and letterpress is like film vs. digital. A safe  
machine with automated moving parts hardly exists. The Windmill is  
one of the safest platens, but as John Christiansen of the Firefly  
press in Cambridge once said, "It would take your arm off and not  
even slow down." So really, the idea is to run it while keeping your  
arm out of it, which isn't that hard to do.

Cheers,

Elias

On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:37 PM, Robert Lilley wrote:

> The Windmill was not a very safe press - flying about like that  
> with just
> the one guard.  I always thought that the early black Speedmasters  
> (without
> any electronics) were more like the Rolleiflex TLR.
>
> I remember a German in Waldorf (just south of Heidelberg) who would  
> set his
> type using a Linotype, pull a copy off his proof press, photograph  
> it with
> his copy camera and run it offset on one of them new fangled  
> Heidleberg
> GTO's - this would be circa 1976.  The typesetting guilds were not  
> happy
> with the revolution in cold type.
>
> Rob
>
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>
> The Heidelberg Automatic T Platen press, lovingly known as the 10x15
> Windmill is a printing press - best job press press ever built. God
> only knows how many were built, but they're all over the world.
> Production stopped sometime in the late 70s. Parts still available
> (at a premium). It's pretty much the Printing press equivalent of the
> Rolleiflex TLR.
>
> E.
>
> On Jan 18, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Peter K. wrote:
>
>> So a Heidi windmill is a printing press?
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2008 7:38 AM, ERoustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hey since it's Friday, who wants to buy a little Rollei digital
>>> camera   :  )
>>>
>>>> Where are these windmills in the photos?
>>>
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> here, shot with the Rollei digi:
>>> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/2201204417_e3410fe588_b.jpg
>>> here's what I do with these presses:
>>> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2416/2201203923_728927867a_b.jpg
>>> and here's with film, and one my canon slrs:
>>> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/111/304674864_b4bea3af75_o.jp
>>> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/106/304642519_c3c0c167b1_o.jpg
>>> and a whole bunch more here:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/emletterpress/
>>>
>>>
>>> E.
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>> Peter K
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