My suggestion is that you leave politics alone and stick with what you appear to understand the care and feeding of the rollei PHOTOGRAPHY list. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc James Small <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 0:26 am Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: Miscellany > At 04:53 PM 9/10/2007, eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >Wow, and I bet we listen to the same radio, and read the same > papers - LOL! > >I wasn't talking about the pols... I did say "half a brain", I meant > >"At least half a brain." > > Well, you do have a way with words! > > I doubt that we listen to the same radio stations > or read the same newspapers. But I am > politically involved and do know what was going > on in the ramp-up to the Iraq War. In the > political spectrum, George H W Bush and George W > Bush are moderate leftists who accept an > interventionist role for government -- George H W > Bush lost in 1992 primarily because the > Republican rank-and-file, those little old ladies > in Tennis Shoes who worked the polls for the GOP, > stayed home after he signed the Family Leave Act and the like. > > The core of Republican Party leadership strongly > advised against intervention in either > Afghanistan or Iraq as no vital US national > interest was at play. The advice of most of > these folks was to start a dialogue in the Middle > East which included a US distancing of its policy > from a blind support of Israel. Bush was > unwilling to do this, and so we ended up with a > war unwinnable unless we are willing to blindly > kill thousands of civilians who may or may not be > involved in any hostile activities. The US > rather stupidly bought into the Nuremburg > Doctrine which includes a ban on "collective > guilt" and thus forbids mass retaliation against > the populace of recalcitrant territories. > > My take? Dump Israel. The Arabs loved the US in > 1945. Let's get back there again. Let's work > for energy independence: adopt a flat $5 a > gallon tax on imported gasoline. Open up > ANWR. (No, I do not advocate shooting Green > folks, but I would certainly ignore them on this > point.) Open up all of the Gulf of Mexico and > Atlantic Littoral to gas and oil exploitation > with appropriate safeguards. Open up shale oil > deposits -- I would exempt oil so derived from > that $5 a gallon tax, of course, as it is > internally generated. Once we have energy > independence, then we can ignore the Middle East > and can be a friend to everyone. > > Marc > > > msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list