[rollei_list] Re: OT Mapplethorp (was Re: Re:)

  • From: "Marvin" <marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:07:57 +0800

I am not trying  be argumentative with you(before we begin Carlos).You
mention "Helmut Newton," his work was considered so bad, particularly the
way he negatively portrays women, that his books had to be removed from the
university library. If they weren't the feminists' would steal his books and
dump them in the bin or tear them up Bob Carlos Clarke's work suffered the
same fate.

Interesting IMHO Mapplethorp was a master of composition, Avendon didn't
share this talent, I'm thinking of Avendon's his full length portraits. So I
think we differ in there.

You mention that personal tragedy plays a part in Mapplethorp's success, the
same is true of Diane Arbus that you mentioned, she photographed other
peoples tragedy such as people with down syndrome, as well as committing
suicide, which was her own personal tragedy. While the first has made her
work controversial, the second has made her appear "authentic."
Marvin. 

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Robert Mapplethorpe:

He was a good photographer about technique, his prints have a high
technical quality as Richard Avedon was known in part thanks to his
high quality prints, those ones with the Agfa Brovira paper specially.
Mapplethorpe reflected his personal sexual preferences in his
artistical work but it does not have the subtlety to show and to
compose male and female bodies and their context that you can find in
most of Helmut Newton work to quote an example.
Mapplethorpe work has been favoured thanks to certain general disfavor
to facts in his life and because his work mixed good photographic
technique with sexual controversy and pornography and a bit of art and
personal tragedy, excellent coctail for a commercial success, but it
does not convert him in a master of the square format above other true
photography masters within or out of the square format IMO.-

Carlos
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