[rollei_list] Re: OT: Getting into 4x5 for the first time...

  • From: ralaubach@xxxxxxx
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:28:54 -0400

 Jeff -

The meters where a probe is held against the ground glass are tougher to 
calibrate for consistent good exposures because they read through the 
additional density of the ground glass.? The Sinar meter's wand is right at the 
film plane in front of the ground glass.? Just a matter of calibrating the 
meter to take the density of the ground glass into consideration.? Would not 
work with a fresnel lens over the ground glass - I believe there was a fresnel 
lens on the camera in the picture if that was the same camera.

Bob


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Kelley <jlkphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 1:24 am
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: Getting into 4x5 for the first time...










The Minolta sensor is held against the ground glass according to the manual.


?


Jeff




On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:05 PM, <ralaubach@xxxxxxx> wrote:


Not familiar with the Minolta sensor. ?Is it placed on/read through the 
groundglass? ?The Sinar meter wand is inserted into a slot in the rear standard 
and the probe is in FRONT of the ground glass and reads right at the film 
plane. 







Bob


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Kelley <jlkphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 7:41 pm
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: Getting into 4x5 for the first time...





Wow, then the deal is even better than I thought!? 


?


I actually own a Minolta Booster II that came with a view camera attachment.? 
This Minolta unit plugs into my Sekonic meter & reads much lower EV than just 
the Sekonic alone.? Is the Sinar light meter wand something similar?



?


Jeff




On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:36 PM, <ralaubach@xxxxxxx> wrote:


The black rail and rubber grips on the micrometer drives and knobs, along with 
a rear standard that can accept a Sinar light meter wand, make it an F2. ?The F 
was silver brushed aluminum rail and the F1 was same as the F but with a taller 
tripod mount, just like the one on the F2. ?You definitely have an F2, if it 
was the one in the photos posted earlier. 





Bob






-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 7:16 pm
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: Getting into 4x5 for the first time...





Bob, as I talked with the seller it was obvious he knew?the basics about the 
hardware but there were a few things in the kit he had never used!? A bag 
bellows still in plastic wrapper, for example.? I had asked if it was F, F1, or 
F2 and he said "F."? But I think you are correct that it is an F2.? It has the 
micro-focusing adjustments...is that F2?? Are there more things to help 
identify what I have here re. F, F1, or F2?



?


He showed me several artistic and product shots taken with this kit and they 
were wonderful.




On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:06 PM, <ralaubach@xxxxxxx> wrote:


Congrats, Jeff. ?Don't worry too much about the Polaroid (hemmhorroid (sp?)) 
holder as it will be worth nothing soon. ?Polaroid announced that it stopped 
manufacturing it's 4x5 films, the only Polaroid film still made in the US in MA 
along with their Netherlands integral films 600 and Spectra, and Mexican made 
pack films. ?Fuji may make some, but doubtful if they'd make 400 speed Type 52, 
100 speed type 54, good old posi-neg Type 55, hi contrast Type 57 and color 
type 59. ?But to take care of it, open up the thick end by pulling with thumb 
and fingers on either side. ?You'll see the roller mechanism - at each end 
you'll see a ? shape hook that hooks over a nub at each end. ?If you slide that 
back, you can swing out the top stainless steel roller and clean it, and the 
roller inside. ?Remember you got yourself a camera that sells new without lens 
or accessories for $2721.00 !! ?And it's a great system. ?Can't wait to see 
your images. 





Bob






-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Kelley <jlkphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 6:15 pm
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: Getting into 4x5 for the first time...













I'm about to find out myself about 4x5 surge marks.? 


?


The Sinar turned out to be better than described.? I was sold as soon as the 
case opened.? The only thing in the case that looks like it has been used is 
the Polaroid film holder, the camera, lenses and accessories look pristine.? 
The seller bought it all new in the '80s & estimates he made about 100 
exposures with it.? It has been in storage for years...but I liberated it about 
an hour ago.



?


Jeff




On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Jim Brick <jim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


You can get surge marks if you don't do it correctly, but you can get
a plethora of anomalies with ANY processing method if done

incorrectly. But it is just so simple with hangers in a tank.

:-)

Jim




On Mar 26, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Jerry Laderberg wrote:

> The old complaint re that method was about the " surge" marks.

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