I concur. I have a Linhof Technika, and a bagof lensboards. Lots of folks have "lenses in shutter" they haven't a clue what to do with. I found a Dallmeyer Pentac in a Compur, 105mm F2.9, and that one lets me take 4x5 into "available light" places. Enjoy. Peter Nebergall On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:54:57 -0700 Jim Brick <jim@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > I've been using LF (4x5 & 8x10) cameras since 1959, when I attended > > Brooks Institute of Photography. LF was how commercial photograph > was > done in those days. I used LF in commercial photography for a couple > > of decades after graduating from Brooks. I continue using LF to this > > day for 'larger than life' landscapes. > > The Sinar F is a capable camera, but more suited for the studio than > > the field. Actually any LF based on a rigid monorail is a studio > camera, unless you want to carry a very cumbersome load! I used a > Graphic View II in school and started my commercial business with > it. > At school, carrying the Graphic View monorail in the field was > always > a pain. When I started my business, I got an 8x10 Deardorf and a 4x5 > > reducing back. This gave me a field camera for both 4x5 & 8x10. Even > > though being a large camera, it was much easier to carry out of the > > studio, AND, back then, advertising agencies wanted 8x10 > Ektachromes. > In 1970 I traded my Graphic View II for a Sinar P - a much more > sophisticated camera, but even less portable than the Graphic View. > > I no longer do commercial photography. All of my work is now > landscape > and nature fine art photography. Over the past couple of decades of > > owning (trying) various fold-up field cameras, a few years ago I > finally found what I consider to be the ultimate 4x5 camera, the > Linhof Technikardan. It is basically a fold-up monorail view camera. > > It folds very flat and the monorail cleverly collapses into itself > > making a very small and ultra portable package, yet will allow the > use > of lenses from 55mm out to 720mm (I have both) with ease. This > camera > is just as at home in the studio as it is in the field. > > So, I personally recommend a field camera rather than the Sinar F. > > There are many capable used field cameras out there for very > reasonable prices - Toyo, Wista, Tachihara, Zone VI, Canham, Linhof > > Technika & Technikardan, etc. And you can get a plethora of great LF > > lenses for pennies on the dollar nowadays. > > I suggest that you also get a book on using view cameras, such as > "Using the View Camera" by Steve Simmons ($8.00 used on Amazon) > > IMHO, > > :-) > > Jim > > > On Mar 25, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Jeff Kelley wrote: > > > I've been giving serious thought to trying 4x5 for the first time. > > > I know nothing about it except from reading. I have about 40yrs of > > > photo experience with 8mm through 6x9, though no view camera > > experience whatsoever. > > > > I found a local seller with a Sinar F, 2 lenses, and what appears > to > > be everything needed to get going - except film. > > > > Does anyone reading know if this "kit" would be appropriate for a > > > rank beginner to the world of 4x5? > > > > Jeff > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list