[rollei_list] Re: OT - Formula One and Perpetual Motion
- From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 06:40:54 +0000
Sadly David the IRL rules are the most awful set of rules I have ever
read for a single seater formula. I fear IRL is in the process of selkf
destructing. It is such a shame that rich men's egos caused the split
of USAC into IRL and CART, nobody has been a winner in this spiteful
contest and a great series was destroyed. CART rules are 100 times more
technically interesting than IRL but they started getting too popular
so "somebody important" screwed their TV deal, ruining their ability to
raise adequate budgets. It is picking up again now as IRL wanes.
Frank
On 29 Jan, 2005, at 05:13, David Seifert wrote:
> I recall well the days in Indianapolis when Parnelli Jones drove the
> STP
> turbine car. I was a kid at the time and like all kids in central
> Indiana the 500 was quite the local passion. Going to the track to see
> the turbine was exciting. It was eerily quiet compared to the
> screaming
> of the high-revving piston engined cars.
>
> Back in those pre-IRL days Indianapolis was governed by USAC which was
> basically a surrogate for the US auto industry. The Indianapolis race
> was started as a test bed for new technologies being advanced by the
> auto makers (at the time central Indiana was the home of the auto
> industry, not Detroit). If memory serves it (the track and race) was
> founded by Carl Fisher. USAC outlawed the turbine because it didn't
> advance the interests of the auto industry. They knew what they were
> doing. After a sojourn into no-holds-barred CART land Indy is now safe
> in the arms of IRL which adheres much more closely to the original
> guiding principles of the race. I get the sense that the same goes for
> F1. So much of the engine technology we take for granted today was
> refined and perfected in racing where the basics are constrained and
> the
> competitive edge is found in clever engineering and refinement of the
> basic concept.
>
> David
>
>
> Bernard wrote:
>
>>> Okay, then explain why hybrids and turbine-powered race cars have
>>> been
>>> banned by the authorities who regulate Formula One!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The list of technologies banned from F1 is much longer than the list
>> of what is
>> allowed. Current regulations allow only for 10 cylinder engines of 3
>> liter
>> displacement.
>> Turbine engines have been somewhat successful at Indy. Oval racing is
>> more
>> suitable for engines that have high horsepower but poor throttle
>> response. A
>> turbine car almost won one year, but there are no prizes granted for
>> almost
>> winning a race.
>>
>> Bernard
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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