Hmm. I'm a friend of John Forester, the fellow who wrote a number of books and articles around 1980 which revived interest in serious bicycling. (John is the son of CS Forester, the creator of Horatio Hornblower, but, to my fairly certain knowledge, neither John nor his father nor, for that matter, Horatio Hornblower ever used a Rolleiflex camera.) A good basic bicycle has been available in the US for the past thirty years which is light of weight, capable of rough service, and realtively easy to use. This came about when frames started being made from aluminium alloys instead of from steel or, in Jerry Lehrer's youth, wood. <he grins> It took the Japanese thirty years to learn how to get the stuff right, but Japanese gear clusters and brakes and shifters built since 1980 or so have been first-rate. If I were seriously into bike-racing, yes, the best is worth it, and those European fiber-frames and the like are worth the funds, as are tube tyres and all the rest. But for simply puttering down to the market, a solid bike can be had for not a lot of money. Get a 10-speed or better and get toe clips, but much of the rest is so much nonsense. I rode regularly until 1997 or so. About two years back, I dug my bike out and inflated the tires and went off to ride it. I fell off three times, proving that you CAN forget how to ride a bicycle! I then spent hours in my back yard, relearning the intricacies of balance and so forth. And then, just when I had it all in hand, my Physical Therapists told me NEVER to ride a bike again due to my bad knee, so there it goes. But a solid and decent bike can be had at a decent price in the US, and a REALLY good bike can be had for a LOT of money, on par or more with the forthcoming Leica Digital M. But the most of us would not be able to appreciate the difference. From years in the darkroom, I do know the difference between a Rolleiflex or a Leica and a more plebian type, but I'm not sophisticated sufficiently in bicycles to note the differences with increasing levels of quality. Now, for kayaks, I'm a Klepper guy, but that is a tale for a different day. Marc msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list