[rollei_list] Re: New to the list

  • From: Jeff Kelley <jlkphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:39:49 -0700

I'd experiment with a test roll or 2 to get the technique down with
the Freestyle aprons in a SS tank.  If you watch ebay you'll see
Kodacraft tanks and aprons show up periodically.  Unlike the Kodacraft
aprons, I think the Freestyle aprons probably should be inverted to
agitate.  If you have a 2 reel tank, you could put an empty reel on
top of the apron to hold it all steady.  Good luck.

Be advised that Freestyle has a $25 minimum order limit.

Jeff

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Robert Creason <rcreason-1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I had no idea know anyone still made those aprons.  And at $1.09 each, that
> would be worth a try again.  120 is all I develop anymore.  I guess these
> would fit in a SS tank?  But would need the metal plate to put on top the
> apron.  I could make something.  I may try that.
> Bob C
>
>
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>> I have the Hewes 120 and 35mm reels and they are by far the easiest
>> metal reels I've ever loaded.
>>
>> Of course, you could find some old (or new) film aprons and make it
>> even easier to load film!
>>
>> Freestyle seems to have only 120 aprons at the moment.  They are $1.09
> each....
>>
>> For those who wonder what these aprons are all about check this link:
>>
> http://www.freestylephoto.biz/50138-Plastic-Film-Apron-Reel-Replacement-for-
>> Arista-120-size-EZ-Tank
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Robert Creason <rcreason-1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> > Yes, I do remember the metal plate.  The problem only occurred once in a
>> > while as I remember.  I have two SS tanks/reels I would like to use, but
>> > they are so frustrating to load.  Maybe I should try one of the Hewes
> reels
>> > to see if they are easier.  The two I have are Nikor and Omega.  These
> reels
>> > look identical and both are difficult to load.  The Jobo I use now is
> very
>> > easy to load.
>> > BobC
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> >> Behalf Of Jeff Kelley
>> >> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:48 PM
>> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: New to the list
>> >>
>> >> The Kodacraft tanks shipped with a metal plate that was supposed to go
>> >> on top of the rolled film/apron to keep that from happening.  Kodak
>> >> did NOT want one to invert these style tanks...just swirl the tank
>> >> without inversion.  I've never had a problem if I followed these
>> >> instructions.  In fact the original Kodacraft tank was light tight but
>> >> NOT sealed on top - so you could not invert it without trying to seal
>> >> the opening with your palm....
>> >>
>> >> Jeff
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Robert Creason
> <rcreason-1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >> > I had a Kodacraft tank with aprons about 1950.  They are so easy to
>> > load,
>> >> > but I did occasionally have one that would, some way, loosen during
>> >> > developing and touch the film causing areas that didn't develop.
>> >  Otherwise,
>> >> > I loved it.  Use Jobo now, so much easier than SS.
>> >> > BobC
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> >> >> Behalf Of Jeff Kelley
>> >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:30 PM
>> >> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: New to the list
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Even though I wrote about buying only the Pro Hewes reels (which I
> own
>> >> >> along with Kindermann SS tanks) it doesn't mean I always use them.
>> >> >> *IF* one is buying Hewes reels, buy the Pro, however.  The lower end
>> >> >> models are junk like most stainless reels.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  Since 1970 I've used Paterson plastic reels and tanks, JOBO plastic
>> >> >> reels and tanks and Kodacraft plastic aprons & thanks.  I also have
>> >> >> 35mm and 120 plastic aprons from Freestyle Photo.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you've not used plastic aprons you're missing the easiest,
> fastest
>> >> >> way to develop film.  Once the film is wound into the lasagna-like
>> >> >> roll of plastic, it can go into any stainless steel or plastic tank.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Use whatever works!  I got 2 new old stock Kodacraft tanks w/aprons,
>> >> >> never used, on ebay for 99 cents.  The shipping was $10.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As Jerry Friedman wrote to me privately years ago:
>> >> >> "There is one downside to using an apron. It is VERY declasse.
>> >> >> EVERYONE, after all, uses a metal tank and spiral
>> >> >> reel. Using an apron is sooooo.........amatuerish.   :>) "
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Have fun developing film.  Who cares how?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jeff Kelley
>> >> >>
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