I'd experiment with a test roll or 2 to get the technique down with the Freestyle aprons in a SS tank. If you watch ebay you'll see Kodacraft tanks and aprons show up periodically. Unlike the Kodacraft aprons, I think the Freestyle aprons probably should be inverted to agitate. If you have a 2 reel tank, you could put an empty reel on top of the apron to hold it all steady. Good luck. Be advised that Freestyle has a $25 minimum order limit. Jeff On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Robert Creason <rcreason-1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I had no idea know anyone still made those aprons. And at $1.09 each, that > would be worth a try again. 120 is all I develop anymore. I guess these > would fit in a SS tank? But would need the metal plate to put on top the > apron. I could make something. I may try that. > Bob C > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Jeff Kelley >> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:37 PM >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: New to the list >> >> I have the Hewes 120 and 35mm reels and they are by far the easiest >> metal reels I've ever loaded. >> >> Of course, you could find some old (or new) film aprons and make it >> even easier to load film! >> >> Freestyle seems to have only 120 aprons at the moment. They are $1.09 > each.... >> >> For those who wonder what these aprons are all about check this link: >> > http://www.freestylephoto.biz/50138-Plastic-Film-Apron-Reel-Replacement-for- >> Arista-120-size-EZ-Tank >> >> Jeff >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Robert Creason <rcreason-1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> > Yes, I do remember the metal plate. The problem only occurred once in a >> > while as I remember. I have two SS tanks/reels I would like to use, but >> > they are so frustrating to load. Maybe I should try one of the Hewes > reels >> > to see if they are easier. The two I have are Nikor and Omega. These > reels >> > look identical and both are difficult to load. The Jobo I use now is > very >> > easy to load. >> > BobC >> > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> >> Behalf Of Jeff Kelley >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:48 PM >> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: New to the list >> >> >> >> The Kodacraft tanks shipped with a metal plate that was supposed to go >> >> on top of the rolled film/apron to keep that from happening. Kodak >> >> did NOT want one to invert these style tanks...just swirl the tank >> >> without inversion. I've never had a problem if I followed these >> >> instructions. In fact the original Kodacraft tank was light tight but >> >> NOT sealed on top - so you could not invert it without trying to seal >> >> the opening with your palm.... >> >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Robert Creason > <rcreason-1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> > wrote: >> >> > I had a Kodacraft tank with aprons about 1950. They are so easy to >> > load, >> >> > but I did occasionally have one that would, some way, loosen during >> >> > developing and touch the film causing areas that didn't develop. >> > Otherwise, >> >> > I loved it. Use Jobo now, so much easier than SS. >> >> > BobC >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> >> >> Behalf Of Jeff Kelley >> >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:30 PM >> >> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: New to the list >> >> >> >> >> >> Even though I wrote about buying only the Pro Hewes reels (which I > own >> >> >> along with Kindermann SS tanks) it doesn't mean I always use them. >> >> >> *IF* one is buying Hewes reels, buy the Pro, however. The lower end >> >> >> models are junk like most stainless reels. >> >> >> >> >> >> Since 1970 I've used Paterson plastic reels and tanks, JOBO plastic >> >> >> reels and tanks and Kodacraft plastic aprons & thanks. I also have >> >> >> 35mm and 120 plastic aprons from Freestyle Photo. >> >> >> >> >> >> If you've not used plastic aprons you're missing the easiest, > fastest >> >> >> way to develop film. Once the film is wound into the lasagna-like >> >> >> roll of plastic, it can go into any stainless steel or plastic tank. >> >> >> >> >> >> Use whatever works! I got 2 new old stock Kodacraft tanks w/aprons, >> >> >> never used, on ebay for 99 cents. The shipping was $10. >> >> >> >> >> >> As Jerry Friedman wrote to me privately years ago: >> >> >> "There is one downside to using an apron. It is VERY declasse. >> >> >> EVERYONE, after all, uses a metal tank and spiral >> >> >> reel. Using an apron is sooooo.........amatuerish. :>) " >> >> >> >> >> >> Have fun developing film. 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