[rollei_list] Re: Marvin Wallace and I Disagree
- From: Jim Brick <jim@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:05:10 -0700
I agree with Marc 200% on this. Maybe even 300%!
Living on the West (left) Coast, near Ansel Adams' home, as I was
growing up, photographing along the coast, I would meet-up with Ansel.
We were acquaintances. I have seen many of Ansel's proof prints (first
prints from a 4x5 or 8x10 neg), full frame. Not only does his final
display prints from these negs not look anything like the first proof
print, they are all CROPPED!
There is NO SUCH THING as being able to produce the perfect
composition with a fixed focal length camera system. Perhaps there are
situations where you have scads of space fore and aft allowing
appropriate movement for that perfect composition. But this is very
rare. There is always a river, cliff, tree, building, freeway,
whatever, in the way and my SL66 is sans zoom. So I crop! As does
everyone else that I know. Although I suspect there are a lot of folks
in SFO that don't crop! Maybe even Marin!
Jim
On Sep 24, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Marc James Small wrote:
Wow. Trust me on this, the Dag guys didn't crop. Trust me, every
photographer since then has cropped. I have seen a lt of historic
negatives and have then seen the prints made from them: they were
cropped.
Cropped photos are life. I cannot comprehend the sort of anal-
retentive mindset which demands that all pictures be printed full-
frame. It just does not work that way. Any one who has spent time
in a dark room has experienced the process of just HOW to crop a
decent negative. A lot of poor pictures produce a great cropped
image.
Marc
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Wow. Trust me on this, the Dag guys didn't crop. Trust me, every photographer since then has cropped. I have seen a lt of historic negatives and have then seen the prints made from them: they were cropped.
Cropped photos are life. I cannot comprehend the sort of anal- retentive mindset which demands that all pictures be printed full- frame. It just does not work that way. Any one who has spent time in a dark room has experienced the process of just HOW to crop a decent negative. A lot of poor pictures produce a great cropped image.
Marc
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