[rollei_list] Re: 'Kodak, Don't Take My Kodachrome'

  • From: "John M. Niemann" <jniemann@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:34:18 -0500

Rocky Mountain Photo Labs in Denver will push process Kodachrome.
It isn't worth the effort in my opinion as the results are aweful.

John

"Peter K." wrote:
> 
> In the US there is only two places to get K14 processing. Swaynes in
> Kansas and Kodak. So it is dying a slow death to be sure.
> 
> On 6/2/05, Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I'd regret if Kodak discontinue Kodachrome 35mm slides
> > production, I think it is not available for our market
> > today, however Kodachrome is linked to my childhood.
> > My father took hundreds of Kodachrome 35 mm slides
> > using his Diax IIb and the Xenon Schneider 50 mm lens,
> > also other lenses that I don't remember now.
> > Writing from my childhood's memory, I remember that
> > Kodachrome 35mm film was sold within an aluminium
> > case, my father commented that the Kodachrome films
> > were developed by an important lab and factory that
> > Kodak had in the Panam=E1 Canal Zone. He put the film
> > within a portable icebox if we traveled. The local lab
> > sent the exposed film to Kodak in Buenos Aires, and
> > then they sent the film to Panam=E1; after three or four
> > months and thousands and thousands of kilometers we
> > could enjoy the projected images with their wonderful
> > colors.
> > My father abandoned the photography ending the 60s'
> > and around 1980 I remembered the Kodachrome slides
> > looking for them. I found the slides, but my father
> > believing to protect the slides put each one between
> > glasses, the glasses condensed humidity and the
> > results were a disaster, the slides got humidity and
> > fungus. I could save around 90 slides using a liquid
> > to clean them that a lab recommended and sold to me,
> > but we lost hundreds.
> > I enjoyed again those marvelous colors but due to the
> > changes in our family I don't know who or where are
> > the Kodachrome slides now, I'll ask to my relatives
> > about them.
> > Kodachrome were the best 35mm slides for me.
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> > All the best
> > Carlos
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> > > In Europe Kodachrome is still prepaid, and
> > > processing is done in
> > > Switzerland. I believe they're the last K-14 lab
> > > operating in Europe
> > > (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I do my part in
> > > keeping it alive by
> > > ordering as many rolls as I can manage. Dropping 8mm
> > > might not affect
> > > the rest of the product, as the article stated that
> > > 16mm and 35mm
> > > (motion picture) would still be produced and
> > > processed. Isn't the 35mm
> > > transparency stock about the same thing as 35mm
> > > motion picture film?
> > >
> > > Thor
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2. jun. 2005, at 04.09, Jerry Lehrer wrote:
> > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > >
> > > > I still have a few prepaid Kodachrome mailers for
> > > > Long Beach, not Rochester.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > > Richard Knoppow wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "John Jensen" <jwjensen356@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:36 PM
> > > >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: 'Kodak, Don't Take My
> > > Kodachrome'
> > > >>
> > > >>> Richard, it was in the early 50s (1954?, 1955?)
> > > that
> > > >>> the courts ruled that the monopoly Kodak had on
> > > >>> processing Kodachrome had to stop.  As a result
> > > of
> > > >>> that ruling, independent labs could get into the
> > > >>> business of processing Kodachrome.  If Kodak
> > > wanted to
> > > >>> stop processing Kodachrome they could
> > > have/should have
> > > >>> stopped then.  But they didn't.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> John
> > > >>>
> > > >>   I'm not sure what issues the court decided. The
> > > main one
> > > >> was that Kodak was including the price of
> > > processing in the
> > > >> price of the film. I think by that time Kodak had
> > > already
> > > >> licensed some independent labs to process
> > > Kodachrome to take
> > > >> the load off Rochester, but I am not sure. I
> > > think its
> > > >> likely that Kodak never made much money from
> > > processing. The
> > > >> film was sold as a system, much like Kodak's
> > > original box
> > > >> camera which was returned to the factory for
> > > processing and
> > > >> printing and returned loaded with fresh film.
> > > >>    I think Kodachrome is a victim of the
> > > shrinking market
> > > >> for film. Remember, that Kodak and Agfa are very
> > > large
> > > >> companies who made enormous volumes of
> > > photographic
> > > >> products. When the market for something shrinks
> > > there are a
> > > >> lot of operating costs that don't shrink, I think
> > > this is
> > > >> what all of the photo products companies are
> > > fighting.
> > > >> Kodak, at least, seems to be trying to keep some
> > > aspect of
> > > >> their original business but the pressures of
> > > having to
> > > >> return a reasonable profit to investors pretty
> > > much limits
> > > >> what management can do. Some management is simply
> > > ruthless
> > > >> about loosing parts of a company, sell them off
> > > for what can
> > > >> be gotten or simply eliminate them, take a one
> > > time charge,
> > > >> and be finished with it. Where there is a stable
> > > or
> > > >> expanding market there is reason to try to fix
> > > poorly
> > > >> performing businesses but where there is simply
> > > not much of
> > > >> a market, or it is shrinking, the problem is not
> > > a broken
> > > >> business that could expand its share but a simple
> > > lack of a
> > > >> place to sell the products no matter how well
> > > they are made
> > > >> or how well the company is run. This is a
> > > completely
> > > >> different thing in my mind from the disastrous
> > > and
> > > >> reprehensible mis-management of companies like
> > > General
> > > >> Motors or the big steel companies in the U.S. who
> > > just
> > > >> decided to shut down whole cities and move
> > > elsewhere. Those
> > > >> moves were made in an attempt to substantially
> > > reduce
> > > >> operating costs by eliminating well paid labor,
> > > this is
> > > >> something else. I wish Kodak luck in preserving
> > > their
> > > >> traditional business. Actually I also wish Ilford
> > > and Agfa
> > > >> well, but even if one or all survive they will do
> > > so in a
> > > >> different form than existed in the past.
> > > >>
> > > >> ---
> > > >> Richard Knoppow
> > > >> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> > > >> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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