Mike, Really like a Red Dial? With the changed shutter speeds? Got a picture of it? Jerry "michael Sta. Maria" wrote: > Marc, > I know I should be saving this for Friday, but if > you are looking for a III screwmount, I have a IIIc > converted to a IIIf with self timer. It actually > looks like a IIIf rd with self timer, pretty sweet. > with 5cm/f3.5 collapsable elmar, Anyway, I have it FS > @ 399 OBO. > MIKe... > littlwing5@xxxxxxxxx > contact off list if interested > --- "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Jerry,=20 > > > > The Pentax *ist 35mm SLR is shorter in length (4.8 v > > 5.3), equally as > > tall, but a tad thicker at 2.5 v. 1.5. Then again it > > also has a built > > in motor, can rewind itself, has faster sync speeds > > and shutter > > speeds, has automated flash, and most importantly, > > you will not cry if > > you drop it. ;-) > > > > Peter K > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:15:36 -0800, Jerry Lehrer > > <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wro= > > te: > > > Peter, > > >=20 > > > Marc and I may take exception to your comment re: > > Jupiter > > > lenses. I don't own any but I have tried a few > > and they are > > > superb! > > >=20 > > > BTW, which FULL FRAME SLRs are smaller than M > > Leicas? > > > Include a normal lens with your choices. They > > gotta be 35mm > > > cameras with 50mm lenses. Remember, the Olympus > > Pen is > > > half frame, > > >=20 > > > I await your selections. > > >=20 > > > Jerry > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > "Peter K." wrote: > > >=20 > > > > Jupiter lens on a Leica? Ugh! Marc, Carl and > > Ernst are rolling in > > > > their graves after you typed this. The only > > reason to use the archaic > > > > Leica M is to use take advantage of the M > > optics. Other than that > > > > there is little reason. Even SLRs these days are > > as small. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:10:11 -0500, Marc James > > Small > > > > <msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > At 11:56 PM 3/28/05 -0500, Ardeshir Mehta > > wrote: > > > > > >Yes, you are right about a Leica III (I was > > thinking of getting one = > > =3D3D2=3D > > > > 0 > > > > > >myself on eBay), but they are more properly > > paired off with =3D3D20 > > > > > >Rolleicords, not Rolleiflexes. > > > > > > > > > > > >But try getting an M3 or higher - M4, M6, > > etc. - on eBay for anythin= > > g =3D > > > > =3D3D20 > > > > > >less than $1,000! I got a Rolleiflex D, > > equipped f/2.8 Xenotar, in = > > =3D3D20 > > > > > >almost perfect working condition (only the > > sports viewfinder mirror = > > is =3D > > > > =3D3D20 > > > > > >missing) for US$255 plus shipping. I WISH I > > could get an M3 that =3D= > > 3D20 > > > > > >cheaply - I'd JUMP at the chance! > > > > >=3D20 > > > > > Apples to apples, again. > > > > >=3D20 > > > > > The IIIc Leica equates to a Rolleiflex Automat > > in terms of vintage an= > > d us=3D > > > > e > > > > > at the time they were produced, both being > > then professional cameras.= > > An=3D > > > > d > > > > > a IIIc with its standard Summitar will run > > about as much as an Automa= > > t in > > > > > equivalent condition. =3D3D20 > > > > >=3D20 > > > > > In today's market, an M6 equates to a 2.8GX. > > See which is cheaper in= > > the > > > > > used market! > > > > >=3D20 > > > > > Your issue about lenses for the M6 is a bit > > misleading: a solid Jupi= > > ter-=3D > > > > 3 > > > > > will run around $100 and a Leitz LTM to M > > adapter will run around $70= > > , so > > > > > add $170 (or more, if you wish to use a Leica > > lens) to the price of t= > > he M=3D > > > > 3 > > > > > or M4 or M6. > > > > >=3D20 > > > > > The M4 does have an inflated price, one that I > > regard as improperly > > > > > inflated, as I find it a weak sister in the > > Leitz line and a camera w= > > hich > > > > > lives much more on reputation than on > > performance. The M3 and M6 are > > > > > substantially superior cameras. > > > > >=3D20 > > > > > Marc > > > > >=3D20 > > > > > msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 > > > > > Cha robh b=3D3DE0s fir gun ghr=3D3DE0s fir! > > > > >=3D20 > > > > >=3D20 > > > > > > > > --=3D20 > > > > Peter K > > > > =3DD3=3DBF=3DD5=3DAC > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > > > --=20 > > Peter K > > =D3=BF=D5=AC > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/