[rollei_list] Re: Idle Musings on Darkroom Chemistry, B&W
- From: Allen Zak <azak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:42:08 -0400
I remember the recipe, although until now, not its originator.
Hello, there!
Allen Zak
On Jul 24, 2007, at 3:39 PM, aghalide@xxxxxxx wrote:
I think about 30 years ago in my Protechniques column in Modern
Photography I suggested D-23 by mixing one ounce of metol and one
pound of Sodium Sulphite in one gallon of water.
although not exactly D-23, it is close enough. .Ed
>
>
> Although I can vouch for the effectiveness of these developers, IMHO
> almost any film that needs developing can be dipped in off the shelf,
> packaged D76, with none the wiser (PQ developers for push processing,
> if you really, really have to). When properly exposed and processed,
> the differences in any category of measure are too small to matter.
> That doesn't mean there are no advantages to other developers, but
gr> those are usually in their economy or ease of use. One exception is
> Xtol and its relatives, but that's another thread.
>
>
> Allen Zak
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> On Jul 24, 2007, at 10:51 AM, Petr Dvorak wrote:
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> Let me add my 2c to this interesting thread. My most favorite
> and almost exclusive developer for 120 and 4x5 films is Barry
> ; Thor nton's 2 bath formula, a metol based compensating developer.
Barry
> started with Stoeckler's and Ansel's D23 formulas and
> modified them slightly for modern emulsions. It is very cheap (I mix
> the solutions at home, the chemicals are cheap and easy to buy
> online), it lasts forever, it is not time and temperature sensitive;
> and produces very nice and even results with good details in shades
> without blowing out highlights. For those who don't mind using 2 bath
> developers, this is an interesting alternative to Diafine.
>
>
>
>
0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.awh-imaging.co.uk/barrythornton/2
> bath.htm
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> Petr
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> On 7/24/07, Gene Johnson
> <<0000,0000,EEEEgenej2ster@xxxxxxxxx>
& gt; wr ote: My favorite developer is a homebrew that was developed
by
> Patrick
>
> Gainer and tweaked by a bunch of folks on a BW list I was
> on. My
>
> particular iteration is a concentrate of Phenidone, Ascorbic acid,
and
>
> KBr (originally in propylene glycol, but I use car antifreeze!), that
>
> is diluted at time of use with water, borax, and sodium carbonate.
>
> oneThe working solution is one shot. Anyway, if anyone wants the
>
> recipe I'll provide it, but I've had great luck with it for a long
>
> time. The concentrate seems to last forever, and the results are
Xtol
>
> like.
>
>
>
>
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although not exactly D-23, it is close enough. .Ed > > > Although I can vouch for the effectiveness of these developers, IMHO > almost any film that needs developing can be dipped in off the shelf, > packaged D76, with none the wiser (PQ developers for push processing, > if you really, really have to). When properly exposed and processed, > the differences in any category of measure are too small to matter. > That doesn't mean there are no advantages to other developers, but gr> those are usually in their economy or ease of use. One exception is > Xtol and its relatives, but that's another thread. > > > Allen Zak > > > > > On Jul 24, 2007, at 10:51 AM, Petr Dvorak wrote: > > > Let me add my 2c to this interesting thread. My most favorite > and almost exclusive developer for 120 and 4x5 films is Barry> ; Thor nton's 2 bath formula, a metol based compensating developer. Barry
> started with Stoeckler's and Ansel's D23 formulas and > modified them slightly for modern emulsions. It is very cheap (I mix > the solutions at home, the chemicals are cheap and easy to buy > online), it lasts forever, it is not time and temperature sensitive; > and produces very nice and even results with good details in shades > without blowing out highlights. For those who don't mind using 2 bath > developers, this is an interesting alternative to Diafine. > > > > 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.awh-imaging.co.uk/barrythornton/2 > bath.htm > > > > Petr > > > > > > On 7/24/07, Gene Johnson > <<0000,0000,EEEEgenej2ster@xxxxxxxxx>& gt; wr ote: My favorite developer is a homebrew that was developed by
> Patrick > > Gainer and tweaked by a bunch of folks on a BW list I was > on. My >> particular iteration is a concentrate of Phenidone, Ascorbic acid, and
> > KBr (originally in propylene glycol, but I use car antifreeze!), that > > is diluted at time of use with water, borax, and sodium carbonate. > > oneThe working solution is one shot. Anyway, if anyone wants the > > recipe I'll provide it, but I've had great luck with it for a long >> time. The concentrate seems to last forever, and the results are Xtol
> > like. > > > >