[rollei_list] Re: Identification of a Rollei TLR

BTW, I forgot to add you can find several Rollei TLR cameras out of the factory 
standard today, one of the items variations are the lenses because there are 
lenses in very good condition for cameras in very bad condition and vice-versa.
I have photographs sent to me by the cameras owner about a 3.5F third type and 
a 2.8F converted into "white face" models, I know who made the conversion 
providing the right parts, the owner only wished to renew the cameras with a 
"white face" look, owner and technician are well-intentioned, the owner will 
keep the cameras, however if he or relatives sell the cameras some day, they 
will be "white face" models.

Carlos
--- El lun 28-jul-08, Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

> According the official Rollei factory service manual, there
> were 3.5F and 2.8F cameras without lightmeter (only
> prepared to receive a lightmeter) from 1966, there were F
> cameras 220 film counter and no 220 film counter without
> lightmeter according the same manual (catalog 3.5F
> 14000.99.1 04 and 05 for the 220 without lightmeter).
> 
> Anyway the camera in the photograph looks like an F with a
> removed lightmeter because the F cameras without lightmeter
> from factory have the focusing knob with the rotating film
> speed and film type reminder.
> 
> The camera serial number is very close regarding the first
> camera to use Xenotar lenses, perhaps within the first
> batch there still were a few cameras provided with the
> Planar lens Rollei had in stock, it happened for the 2.8F,
> after to finish the contract with Carl Zeiss to provide the
> Planar 2.8/80 for the TLR, there were some cameras provided
> with this lens that Rollei had in stock while others
> cameras from the same batch were provided with the Xenotar
> Schneider 2.8/80 lens.
> 
> About "Telos" mentioned by Martin, if my memory
> serves me good, Telos was a very important Rollei
> representative in France.-
> 
> Carlos
> 
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> 
> --- El dom 27-jul-08, Per Einar Forberg
> <forberg@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> 
> > De: Per Einar Forberg <forberg@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Asunto: [rollei_list] Identification of a Rollei TLR
> > Para: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Fecha: domingo, 27 de julio de 2008, 8:19 pm
> > I've just participated in a photo meeting which
> lasted
> > for 5-6 days in  
> > my hometown Larvik, here in Norway.
> > It was a so called APUG meeting, and there were a
> darkroom
> > workshop  
> > with Mike Crawford from UK over
> > three full days from morning to evening.
> > 
> > He produced the finest prints I've ever seen!
> He's
> > a true  
> > perfectionist, but not in the bad way.
> > (He told us that he once took a picture, developed the
> > film, made a  
> > copy, developed, dried and mounted it in just 37
> minutes).
> > 
> > To the point.
> > Another one of the participants of this photo meeting
> had a
> > Rolleiflex  
> > TLR.
> > I asked which model it was, and he said; 3,5F.
> > Which I really didn't believe at first, as it
> > didn't have a meter.
> > So I inspected it more thorough, and surely the serial
> > number says:  
> > 3,5F 2816946.
> > 
> > So I checked my books, and both Arthur Evans and Claus
> > Prochnow's  
> > books indicates it's a 3,5F, late model (not much
> of
> > a surprice as it says 3,5F before the serial number).
> > 
> > Prochnows Rollei Report 2 indicates that it should
> have a
> > Xenotar  
> > lens, while it has a Planar.
> > 
> > My conclusion so far is that it's a 3,5F which has
> had
> > the meter  
> > removed, or even more likely: another Rollei TLR model
> > that's been
> > repaired with a 3,5F as a donor camera for parts.
> > 
> > I've made some pictures of the camera available
> for you
> > at: http://www.rollei.no/TLR/
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Per Einar
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