[rollei_list] Re: Grossly OT: California and Politics

The movie is available on DVD so a rental place will
have it.

You have an interesting history of experiences with
communism.  Now, to provoke some controversy here, I
will repeat a good line - "Communism is nothing but
Liberalism in a hurry."

John

--- Peter J Nebergall <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I read about it.  Several years before the wall came
> down, Dad tried to
> go home, to get some family papers out of a bank,
> and was detained by
> Vopos or Stasi (does it matter?), called "yankee
> spy" aand deported.
> I attended a workshop at American Anthropological
> assn. just after the
> wall fell (Modrow has my heartfelt thanks) about
> opportunities to study. 
> I thought maybe folks would compare e and w....  but
> no.  Sometimes
> reality is an obscene parody of sense.  As I wrote
> in THE COLOR OF HIS
> COAT, it was a monotonous parade of droners crying
> crockodile tears about
> how the East would 'never again know the joys of
> Socialism"  
> I blasted them (I was the only mauerspringer in the
> room) and then left
> before I puked...
> 
> Hey -- Communism is garbage!  And, it makes for poor
> cameras too.
> 
> P.J. Nebergall
> 
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:58:17 -0700 (PDT) John Jensen
> <jwjensen356@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > I presume you saw the film 'Goodbye, Lenin'.  I
> was
> > talking with a former Ossie a few months ago (now
> in
> > Backnang, near Stuttgart) and we both had a few
> laughs
> > about the movie.  He got a big kick about the
> > Spreewald Gherkin and the jar.  He said it was
> really
> > like that, the movie that is.  By my estimate of
> his
> > age, I would guess him to have been about the same
> age
> > as the fellow in the movie (in 1989).
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > --- Peter J Nebergall <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > I am in the US; the family is from Eisenach.
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) John
> Jensen
> > > <jwjensen356@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > > > Peter, are you still in Germany?  By your
> previous
> > > > responses I took it that you are in the U.S.
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > > > 
> > > > --- Peter J Nebergall <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I have a couple of Soviet-era cameras...
> Kiev,
> > > > > Start, Fed...  and I have
> > > > > to agree...   
> > > > > As an Ossi myself, I laugh at Pentacon's
> first
> > > > > request after unification,
> > > > > which was for the west to "please send
> > > accountants;
> > > > > we do not know how
> > > > > much our products cost us to manufacture..."
> > > > > Governments do a poor enough job of their
> job --
> > > > > governing.  Keep away
> > > > > from all else....  bitte sehr?
> > > > > 
> > > > > P.J. Nebergall
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:30:35 -0700 "Peter
> K."
> > > > > <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > writes:
> > > > > > Just be glad governments don't manufacture
> > > > > cameras. Imagine the cost 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > mannufacture and the quality, or lack of I
> > > should
> > > > > say.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 9/27/05, Jeff Dilcher
> > > <dilcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 06:42:40PM
> +0000,
> > > > > jon.stanton@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > "Giving one out of 4 dollars I earn to
> the
> > > > > government isn't the 
> > > > > > root of
> > > > > > > all evils, but when I can't afford the
> > > camera I
> > > > > want, itis pretty 
> > > > > > low on the
> > > > > > > tree..."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Don't kid yourself....You give far
> more
> > > than
> > > > > 25% to the
> > > > > > > government...even at the lowest tax
> bracket
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know. Then include state tax, local
> sales
> > > tax,
> > > > > car tax, gas tax, 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > (insert your favorite tax here).
> > > > > > > I feel guilty. I should be doing
> more....
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