I always get them on my computer!! Bob C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: [rollei_list] Extra characters in the Posted messages > I am trying to figure that one out too. Does everyone see these > characters in my original post? Please reply. Perhaps it is something > at my end. > > > On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:06:30 -0800, Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wro= > te: > > Peter, > >=20 > > Include the lens, bitte! > >=20 > > 2.5 vs. 1.5 is hardly a TAD, it is 2/3 more! > >=20 > > BTW, WTF is this =3D20 that appears in some > > messages of yours? Can you or your server > > suppress this annoying artifact? > >=20 > > Can someone who knows more about > > computers than you or me, address this topic? > >=20 > > Jerry > >=20 > > "Peter K." wrote: > >=20 > > > Jerry,=3D20 > > > > > > The Pentax *ist 35mm SLR is shorter in length (4.8 v 5.3), equally as > > > tall, but a tad thicker at 2.5 v. 1.5. Then again it also has a built > > > in motor, can rewind itself, has faster sync speeds and shutter > > > speeds, has automated flash, and most importantly, you will not cry if > > > you drop it. ;-) > > > > > > Peter K > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:15:36 -0800, Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx>= > wro=3D > > > te: > > > > Peter, > > > >=3D20 > > > > Marc and I may take exception to your comment re: Jupiter > > > > lenses. I don't own any but I have tried a few and they are > > > > superb! > > > >=3D20 > > > > BTW, which FULL FRAME SLRs are smaller than M Leicas? > > > > Include a normal lens with your choices. They gotta be 35mm > > > > cameras with 50mm lenses. Remember, the Olympus Pen is > > > > half frame, > > > >=3D20 > > > > I await your selections. > > > >=3D20 > > > > Jerry > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > > "Peter K." wrote: > > > >=3D20 > > > > > Jupiter lens on a Leica? Ugh! Marc, Carl and Ernst are rolling in > > > > > their graves after you typed this. The only reason to use the archa= > ic > > > > > Leica M is to use take advantage of the M optics. Other than that > > > > > there is little reason. Even SLRs these days are as small. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:10:11 -0500, Marc James Small > > > > > <msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > At 11:56 PM 3/28/05 -0500, Ardeshir Mehta wrote: > > > > > > >Yes, you are right about a Leica III (I was thinking of getting = > one =3D > > > =3D3D3D2=3D3D > > > > > 0 > > > > > > >myself on eBay), but they are more properly paired off with =3D3= > D3D20 > > > > > > >Rolleicords, not Rolleiflexes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >But try getting an M3 or higher - M4, M6, etc. - on eBay for any= > thin=3D > > > g =3D3D > > > > > =3D3D3D20 > > > > > > >less than $1,000! I got a Rolleiflex D, equipped f/2.8 Xenotar, = > in =3D > > > =3D3D3D20 > > > > > > >almost perfect working condition (only the sports viewfinder mir= > ror =3D > > > is =3D3D > > > > > =3D3D3D20 > > > > > > >missing) for US$255 plus shipping. I WISH I could get an M3 that= > =3D3D=3D > > > 3D20 > > > > > > >cheaply - I'd JUMP at the chance! > > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > Apples to apples, again. > > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > The IIIc Leica equates to a Rolleiflex Automat in terms of vintag= > e an=3D > > > d us=3D3D > > > > > e > > > > > > at the time they were produced, both being then professional came= > ras.=3D > > > An=3D3D > > > > > d > > > > > > a IIIc with its standard Summitar will run about as much as an Au= > toma=3D > > > t in > > > > > > equivalent condition. =3D3D3D20 > > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > In today's market, an M6 equates to a 2.8GX. See which is cheape= > r in=3D > > > the > > > > > > used market! > > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > Your issue about lenses for the M6 is a bit misleading: a solid = > Jupi=3D > > > ter-=3D3D > > > > > 3 > > > > > > will run around $100 and a Leitz LTM to M adapter will run around= > $70=3D > > > , so > > > > > > add $170 (or more, if you wish to use a Leica lens) to the price = > of t=3D > > > he M=3D3D > > > > > 3 > > > > > > or M4 or M6. > > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > The M4 does have an inflated price, one that I regard as improper= > ly > > > > > > inflated, as I find it a weak sister in the Leitz line and a came= > ra w=3D > > > hich > > > > > > lives much more on reputation than on performance. The M3 and M6= > are > > > > > > substantially superior cameras. > > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > Marc > > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20 > > > > > > Cha robh b=3D3D3DE0s fir gun ghr=3D3D3DE0s fir! > > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > >=3D3D20 > > > > > > > > > > --=3D3D20 > > > > > Peter K > > > > > =3D3DD3=3D3DBF=3D3DD5=3D3DAC > > > >=3D20 > > > >=3D20 > > > > > > --=3D20 > > > Peter K > > > =3DD3=3DBF=3DD5=3DAC > >=20 > >=20 > > > --=20 > Peter K > =D3=BF=D5=AC >