[rollei_list] Re: "E" ID
- From: CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:29:01 -0300
BTW Elias, your camera is OK to become a "white face" ;-) ;-), you
only need to add this "White Face" front panel :
http://alturl.com/s3kr
your camera value could gain more than the 100 euros it costs, it also
has the self-timer X-M lever included, when you set this lever at the
M/bulb icon position, the lever becomes locked in this position and
you can't use the self-timer, you need to do a special movement as
"extracting" the lever to unlock it, this is a feature that older
models with the same lever for X-M -self-timer setting (like the 2.8E)
don't have.
Carlos
2009/12/21, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Elias,
> I thought it would look worse. It has the "220" lateral
> panel, meaning it has the "ear" below the frames counter window to
> install the 12/24 changer and the strap holders don't have the half
> moon, it puts your camera manufacture year in 1966 clearly, the Report
> II and the Rollei Factory Repair manual dates are very close for this
> case and considering your camera SN.
>
> It's interesting to note your F does not show a lightmeter, the plate
> to cover the selenium cells place looks original, it could be taken
> from other camera if the lightmeter was retired out of factory (I
> don't know if an E3 camera cover for the lack of selenium cells could
> fit in the F, it seems yes), but your camera could also be one of the
> F without lightmeter from factory.
> Prochnow did not include the 3.5F and 2.8F without lightmeter from
> factory in his models descriptions, however these cameras exist and I
> have seen some samples that looked original from factory.
> The Rollei Factory Repair manual clarifies this issue , 3.5F and 2.8F
> without lightmeter from factory were produced from 1966, Rollei
> catalog numbers 14000.99.1 04 and 05 (3.5F) and 17000.99.1 04 and 05
> (2.8F), it makes sense because in 1965 the 3.5E3 and 2.8E3 without
> lightmeter from factory were manufactured for the last time and there
> were pro photographers preferring cameras without lightmeter; BTW E
> and F cameras without lightmeter were prepared to receive lightmeter
> sets sold separately.
>
> Carlos
>
> .
>
> 2009/12/20 Elias Roustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > Well here's a photo of the old camera:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/elroustom/4201464939/
> >
> > Thanks Carlos for all your input.
> >
> > E.
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2009, at 6:39 AM, CarlosMFreaza wrote:
> >
> >> 2009/12/14 CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>
> >>> Yes Elias, the camera was made in 1965 or perhaps at the beginning of
> >>> 1966 according the Rollei Report II second and reviewed edition, 3.5
> >>> F cameras from 2299547 to 2814999 SN were made from 1965 up to 1966,..."
> >>
> >> I add that the SN block mentioned above is a typical sample about the
> >> way F&H handled the serial numbers for their different TLR models,
> >> the models between 2299547 to 2814999 are not 3.5F cameras only, you
> >> can find 3.5E2, 3.5E3, 2.8E2, 2.8E3, Tele- Rolleiflex, Wideangle
> >> Rolleiflex, some T, Rolleimagic I and II and Rolleicord Vb too within
> >> this serial block, it explains the 515452 units included within this
> >> block; however Rollei payed special attention to avoid duplicated
> >> serial numbers for two different units, it was never found two
> >> original Rollei TLR cameras with identical serial numbers.
> >>
> >> Carlos
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