BTW Elias, your camera is OK to become a "white face" ;-) ;-), you only need to add this "White Face" front panel : http://alturl.com/s3kr your camera value could gain more than the 100 euros it costs, it also has the self-timer X-M lever included, when you set this lever at the M/bulb icon position, the lever becomes locked in this position and you can't use the self-timer, you need to do a special movement as "extracting" the lever to unlock it, this is a feature that older models with the same lever for X-M -self-timer setting (like the 2.8E) don't have. Carlos 2009/12/21, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>: > Elias, > I thought it would look worse. It has the "220" lateral > panel, meaning it has the "ear" below the frames counter window to > install the 12/24 changer and the strap holders don't have the half > moon, it puts your camera manufacture year in 1966 clearly, the Report > II and the Rollei Factory Repair manual dates are very close for this > case and considering your camera SN. > > It's interesting to note your F does not show a lightmeter, the plate > to cover the selenium cells place looks original, it could be taken > from other camera if the lightmeter was retired out of factory (I > don't know if an E3 camera cover for the lack of selenium cells could > fit in the F, it seems yes), but your camera could also be one of the > F without lightmeter from factory. > Prochnow did not include the 3.5F and 2.8F without lightmeter from > factory in his models descriptions, however these cameras exist and I > have seen some samples that looked original from factory. > The Rollei Factory Repair manual clarifies this issue , 3.5F and 2.8F > without lightmeter from factory were produced from 1966, Rollei > catalog numbers 14000.99.1 04 and 05 (3.5F) and 17000.99.1 04 and 05 > (2.8F), it makes sense because in 1965 the 3.5E3 and 2.8E3 without > lightmeter from factory were manufactured for the last time and there > were pro photographers preferring cameras without lightmeter; BTW E > and F cameras without lightmeter were prepared to receive lightmeter > sets sold separately. > > Carlos > > . > > 2009/12/20 Elias Roustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > > Well here's a photo of the old camera: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/elroustom/4201464939/ > > > > Thanks Carlos for all your input. > > > > E. > > > > On Dec 17, 2009, at 6:39 AM, CarlosMFreaza wrote: > > > >> 2009/12/14 CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>: > >>> > >>> Yes Elias, the camera was made in 1965 or perhaps at the beginning of > >>> 1966 according the Rollei Report II second and reviewed edition, 3.5 > >>> F cameras from 2299547 to 2814999 SN were made from 1965 up to 1966,..." > >> > >> I add that the SN block mentioned above is a typical sample about the > >> way F&H handled the serial numbers for their different TLR models, > >> the models between 2299547 to 2814999 are not 3.5F cameras only, you > >> can find 3.5E2, 3.5E3, 2.8E2, 2.8E3, Tele- Rolleiflex, Wideangle > >> Rolleiflex, some T, Rolleimagic I and II and Rolleicord Vb too within > >> this serial block, it explains the 515452 units included within this > >> block; however Rollei payed special attention to avoid duplicated > >> serial numbers for two different units, it was never found two > >> original Rollei TLR cameras with identical serial numbers. > >> > >> Carlos > >> --- > >> Rollei List > >> > >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > >> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >> > >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >> > >> - Online, searchable archives are available at > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > >> > > > > --- > > Rollei List > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe'in the > > subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with'unsubscribe' in the > > subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list