Hi Peter, Nothing I said was a justification (though I've been listening to digital justification and self proclaimed digital experts - present company excluded - for a decade claiming 2-3M "pixels" was better than 35mm film etc.). I do this (digital imaging equipment design) for a living, and have been for some 30 years. I spend a lot of time specifically dealing with image fidelity (and design some tools to test this as well). I know what digital medium can do, and what film medium can do. I didn't making any claims as to which is better/worse from an amorphous "image quality" perspective, that is a personal opinion. But, when talking about strict image fidelity, digital does not have as high an image fidelity (accuracy of reproduction) when comparing unit area to unit area, much less , 56mm x 56mm film vs an APS sized sensor (Rollei vs XTi). That *really* just doesn't hold any water (to say the least) from my experience. Of course, all this depends on a lot of factors, how well the image is exposed, and in the case of film, how well it's developed, and what film you're talking about etc. So, it's really amorphous to talk about this without specifics...but in the case of 56x56 vs 17x24, there isn't much of a prayer, except in some extreme circumstance. I guess a an A with the mismatched Tessar using Delta 3200 vs a Canon XTi with L glass at 100ASA...may stand a chance. Regards, Austin -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Peter K. Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:29 PM To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Digital Advice You can believe what you want. Everyone justifies what they own especially those who cling to their film cameras. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Austin Franklin <austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Michael, > Now that the output from these cameras far exceed the quality that > I could produce (for my normal wedding/photojournalism work) with 35mm > film... Shooting both film and digital, for quite a few years, I still don't see higher digital quality from any sub $2k digital camera than 35mm film. But, that's using my criteria...some people think that sharpness somehow is higher image quality...but in reality, it is typically not. I think a lot of the digital "quality" people like, like sharpness, are a false metric with respect to actual image fidelity. Comics are very sharp, but have little detail. So, anyway, though I fully appreciate and agree that *some* people believe their digital output has higher "quality" than they got with film, I believe a lot of it is misperception of actual image fidelity. But, hey, since in today's society perception is everything (reality takes a back seat), then if they think an image with lower image fidelity is higher "quality", who am I to argue. The bottom line is, it really depends on what the criteria for "quality" is. That, for some reason, seems to almost never be stated. Regards, Austin --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list -- Peter K Ó¿Õ¬