[rollei_list] Re: Copyright Law

  • From: Eric Goldstein <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 21:58:56 -0500

I can't follow your thinking here, Frank, so I can't comment on it...


Eric Goldstein

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On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Frank Dernie
<Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Of course not!
> I am talking about their relatives (that is what I though you were referring 
> to when you wrote "the estates of"). My point was that if the estate was 
> taxed more and income less the ones who did NOT earn any of the money would 
> not get it, or waste time arguing about who of the "heirs" is entitled to it, 
> they could go out and earn some of their own money. I seethe at how much 
> money dealers make out of paintings by van Gogh when he was so broke.
> FD
>
> On 3 Dec, 2009, at 13:14, Eric Goldstein wrote:
>
>> So your definition of talentless include the modern contemporary
>> masters such as Van Gogh and Man Ray (who both died penniless)? Or
>> composers such as Copland and Ives? Countless great literary authors
>> from the recent past? Great photographers such as Weston and Adams?
>>
>>
>> Eric Goldstein
>>
>> --
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Frank Dernie
>> <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Exactly my point, bunch of greedy talentless people who should get a job.
>>> FD
>>>
>>> On 2 Dec, 2009, at 23:25, Eric Goldstein wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tell this to the estates of Elvis, Michael Jackson, just about all
>>>> modern painters or note...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eric Goldstein
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Frank Dernie
>>>> <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Why not have copyright end with the death of the original 
>>>>> artist/inventor, he doesn't need the income anymore and it would avoid 
>>>>> unseemly arguments from the family, who have done nothing to earn the 
>>>>> income.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Dec, 2009, at 00:36, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark your statement doesn't follow from what was said. Please explain.
>>>>>>> Marvin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> works in question are already extant. Even more mysterious to me is
>>>>>>>> how extending copyright out to 70 years after the author's death
>>>>>>>> encourages the creation of new works. But of course I am being
>>>>>>>> intentionally obtuse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because they figure if  he's dead he's not going to produce much more 
>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>> after than anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark William Rabiner
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