I can't follow your thinking here, Frank, so I can't comment on it... Eric Goldstein -- On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Of course not! > I am talking about their relatives (that is what I though you were referring > to when you wrote "the estates of"). My point was that if the estate was > taxed more and income less the ones who did NOT earn any of the money would > not get it, or waste time arguing about who of the "heirs" is entitled to it, > they could go out and earn some of their own money. I seethe at how much > money dealers make out of paintings by van Gogh when he was so broke. > FD > > On 3 Dec, 2009, at 13:14, Eric Goldstein wrote: > >> So your definition of talentless include the modern contemporary >> masters such as Van Gogh and Man Ray (who both died penniless)? Or >> composers such as Copland and Ives? Countless great literary authors >> from the recent past? Great photographers such as Weston and Adams? >> >> >> Eric Goldstein >> >> -- >> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Frank Dernie >> <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Exactly my point, bunch of greedy talentless people who should get a job. >>> FD >>> >>> On 2 Dec, 2009, at 23:25, Eric Goldstein wrote: >>> >>>> Tell this to the estates of Elvis, Michael Jackson, just about all >>>> modern painters or note... >>>> >>>> >>>> Eric Goldstein >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Frank Dernie >>>> <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Why not have copyright end with the death of the original >>>>> artist/inventor, he doesn't need the income anymore and it would avoid >>>>> unseemly arguments from the family, who have done nothing to earn the >>>>> income. >>>>> >>>>> On 2 Dec, 2009, at 00:36, Mark Rabiner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark your statement doesn't follow from what was said. Please explain. >>>>>>> Marvin. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> works in question are already extant. Even more mysterious to me is >>>>>>>> how extending copyright out to 70 years after the author's death >>>>>>>> encourages the creation of new works. But of course I am being >>>>>>>> intentionally obtuse. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Because they figure if he's dead he's not going to produce much more >>>>>>> works >>>>>>> after than anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark William Rabiner --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list