Regarding different Rolleis, the question that I would like to ask is regarding image quality. And how the E model and F 3.5s compare. I has been suggested that the Bulls Eye had the best quality lenses ever built for 35mm. The price and weight of the Bulls Eye was such that it inadvertently competed with the Hasselblad and its range of Zeiss Optics. Marvin. -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marc James Small Sent: 27 May 2005 09:18 To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Contaflex At 03:00 PM 5/26/05 -0700, Peter K. wrote: >I know, I have a Lynx 14. It is a wonderful camera and the lens is >first rate, but the combo is not light. >The Zeiss cameras I was referring to was the Contaflex. It had >interchangeable lenses. I am not very familiar with these cameras, so >I leave details to Jerry, Richard, et al who know far more. I do >remember they went out business around 1971. Their lense had leaf >shutters and were slow. I was told that to make the Zeiss designs >faster would involve a change in design, a different shutter, and >hence increase the price and size of the lens. They had a 50mm F2.8 as >the standard lens while all the Japanese SLRs with focal plane >shutters had 50mm F1.4 lenses. They also had a top speed of 1/500 secs >while the focal plane SLRs had 1/1000. >Eventually, Canon and Nikon and others put them out of business with >faster lenses and lower prices. Peter Now, for the REST of the story. The Contaflex was an SLR development of the RF Contessa 35 and was introduced in the early 1950's. There were a number of versions, but all were intended for the amatuer market and not for use by professionals, though some pros did use them extensively. They were never intended to compete with professional cameras and were priced accordingly. The cameras all used Compur 00 shutters which did limit lens speed. The basic lens, as you note, was the f/2.8 45mm and, later, 50mm Tessar, while the Pro Tessar range ran to f/3.4 and f/4 lenses, and the use of an 8x, 30mm monocular allowed a rather sexy f/13 400mm arrangement, rather unique for the time, as it weighed almost nothing. =20 (There were four basic families. The first was the Contaflex I and II, which had a non-removeable 45mm f/2.8 Tessar as the standard lens; there was a single auxiliary lens attachment, the 1.5X Teleskop produced by Rodenstock. The Contaflex III brought out the Pro Tessar lenses produced by Zeiss which remained the mainstay until the end of the line, with a recomputation of the basic 50mm f/2.8 Tessar between the end of the Super B and the introduction of the Super New. There was a less expensive version which used a lens range similar to the Pro Tessars but produced by Rodenstock; these were the Pantar lenses shared with the Contessa III P&S camera. Finally, there was a 126 version, though this isn't actually a Contaflex at all, having begun its existence as the Voigtl=E4nder Icarex 126= . There was a Proxar range of five lenses affording close-ups and the three 35mm camera series all had beam-splitter stereo rigs. The Contaflex Super BC was the first camera marketed which provided TTL metering, incidentally, quite a nifty item for 1965. The Contaflex was a huge success throughout its life and sold very well even to the last Contaflex S which walked out the door of the plant at Stuttgart in 1971. The income earned from the Contaflex allowed Zeiss Ikon to stay in business after the war and underwrote the losses incurred by the development and production of the Contax IIa and IIIa camera line. =20 What bankrupted Zeiss Ikon was the huge, bleeding, pool of debt caused by the Contarex SLR line, a camera system which has never been equalled in terms of its quality but which, as was the case with the Sunbeam Alpine and Tiger sports cars, cost about 125% of the price at which they could be sold. While the camera was magnificent, it was simply a huge loss leader and the Zeiss Foundation, while patiently waiting for Dr Kuppenbender to retire, pulled the plug the minute he did so. (Zeiss Ikon did have a business plan to recover, and a fascinating one it was: they wanted to concentrate production on four camera lines, the Contessa S310 and S312, the SL 706 (the final Icarex), the SL 725 to replace the Contaflex, and the SL 2000F to replace the Contarex. In the end, the S 310 and S312, the SL 706, and the SL 2000F were passed to Rolleiflex when Zeiss Ikon went belly-up, while the SL 725 was sold to a firm called Wolf who attempted to produce the camera but failed due to lack of funding -- they had been foolish enough to believe that the Zeiss Foundation would pay their way!) The Contaflex is a fine camera, as was the Contessa 35. Marc msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx=20 Cha robh b=E0s fir gun ghr=E0s fir! 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