Yes Todd, I could see the reddish felt ring last night focusing the R'cord IV at 0.80m. The topic is as clear as day for me now. I liked the word "contraption", perhaps it's the best word to define the thing that works at the taking lens back for several models.- All the best Carlos --- Todd Belcher <todd_belcher@xxxxxxxxx> escribió: > All postwar Rolleicords have the felt ring I spoke > of. No Rolleicords > that I know of had the rubberized contraption at the > back of the lens. > > todd > > > On 20-Aug-05, at 8:26 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos Manuel > Freaza" > > <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 7:25 PM > > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Bellows on 2.8D?...an > answer from Mr > > Prochnow > > > > > >> Yes Richard, I have seen again the Rolleicord IV > and > >> really it has a membrane or diaphragm that > appears > >> when you put the focus mechanism at the minimum > >> focusing distance, it has a reddish color and > it's > >> very different regarding the system for the 2.8C, > >> while the 2.8C is similar to your 2.8E, (it moves > >> following the lens movement as Todd explained), > the > >> Rolleicord IV membrane or diaphragm(there are no > >> "bellows" here) is invisible till you advance > the > >> lens to the minimum focusing distance (0.80m), > that > >> was the reason I did not see it before. As > Prochnow > >> wrote, the diaphragm, (or short "bellows" or > membrane > >> or whatever) looks different according each > >> "calculation". > >> The Rollei TLR cameras anti-reflection system are > very > >> effective according my experience; of course, as > you > >> wrote, it is not perfect if you shoot into the > sun, > >> but for this case it sometimes helps to obtain a > bit > >> of flare control enough for some detail in the > photo. > >> Perhaps that issue about the roller reflection > seen in > >> some cameras has something to do with problems > for > >> this "diaphragm".- > >> > >> All the best > >> Carlos > >> > > The thing in the Rolleicord appears to be a felt > bushing. I think a > > similar arrangement is used in MX and earlier > Rolleiflexes. I've had > > my Old Standard apart completely. It uses a > different arrangement for > > focusing than later Rolleis but shares a very > similar sort of light > > trap. The lens has tube around it. This tube goes > through a felt > > bushing which is fastened to a hole in the body of > the camera. On the > > 2.8E this appears to have been replaced with a > cloth ring which is > > cemented to something at the rear of the shutter > and to the clearance > > hole in the body of the camera. > > The cloth ring is made to have a single annular > fold to allow focusing > > movement. > > > > --- > > Richard Knoppow > > Los Angeles, CA, USA > > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > --- > > Rollei List > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in > > the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'unsubscribe' > > in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging > into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list