CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> escribió: > 4) I found right now Claus Prochnow was right when he wrote me that > Rolleinar lenses were made first in Japan and later in Singapore, > please look at these two images in the Jan Boetcher Rollei Museum, > it's the first time I see Rolleinar lenses engraved " Lens made in > Singapore" ("made in Japan" and "made in Singapore" lens barrels looks > identical), I had only seen Rolleinar 1.4/55 engraved "Lens made in > West Germany" in eBay : > > http://www.janboettcher.de/images/RNAR28135.JPG > > http://www.janboettcher.de/images/R2835MIS.JPG 5) I found a Color Ultron AR 1.4/55 "Lens made in West Germany" in an ended auction at eBay Germany, this lens is _identical_ regarding my similar lens engraved "Lens Made in Japan" and then it's evident that the same lens barrel manufacturer (perhaps Mamiya Sekor factory, perhaps other lens barrel manufacturer), provided the lenses barrels for the Rolleinar/Mamiya and Voigtländer Color Ultron 1.4/55 lens versions made in Japan and made in Germany and we can add the Rolleinar/Mamiya lenses made in Singapore since the Rolleinar Mamiya 2.8./135 and 28mm made in Japan and made in Singapore shown in the photographs above also have identical lenses barrels. This is the Color Ultron AR/Mamiya 1.4/55mm made in West germany (it's necessary to scroll the page to the center): http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130676149364 6) The paragraphs 4 and 5 are about Rolleinar/Mamiya and Voigtländer-Rollei/Mamiya lenses made up to the Rollei banruptcy in 1981, there were no HFT Rolleinar Mamiya lenses up to 1981, all them are MC, even those lenses made in Germany and Singapore. The HFT Rolleinar lenses, including the Mamiyas ones, appeared from 1984 during the Rollei Fototechnic era. The point is that in 1984 the largest and main Mamiya distributor and partner in Japan, Osawa, filled for bankrupcy, it affected Mamiya very much and it was restructured to become a photographic company dedicated to MF equipment mainly, the 35mm cameras and lenses manufacture were eliminated and then the question is "Who did make the new HFT Rolleinar/Mamiya lenses from 1984?" , Mamiya had advanced projects to introduce new 35mm cameras and some new lenses when the Osawa bankruptcy aborted them, it could explain new HFT Rolleinar/Mamiya lenses made for Rollei from 1984, but it does not explain who made them. I guessed that at least some batches could be made by Rollei Fototechnic because I read somewhere Mamiya licensed them to Rollei and since Rollei was making Zeiss lenses under license for the TLR and 6000 cameras system they could also make the Mamiya lenses, but facts are I never saw one of them made in Germany up to now, I have seen some HFT Rolleinar/Mamiyas samples in eBay Germany, but they were made in Japan. Perhaps Mamiya having contracts with Rollei asked other Japanese lenses manufacturer to take charge of the 35mm Mamiya lenses manufacture for Rollei. Carlos Carlos --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list