Peter, your opinions have a complete lack of coherence, in 2005 you wrote that Hasselblad and Heidecke meeting perhaps had nothing to do with business and that there was not evidence about the agreement: > De: Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> > Asunto: [rolleiusers] OT: Heidecke meets Hasselblad meeting > Para: rolleiusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fecha: domingo, 11 de septiembre de 2005, 16:53 > Maybe it was a business meeting. The > reason for which we can only "speculate." Perhaps Victor and > Reinhold met to discuss birding? Perhaps they were BOTH into > bird watching. I for one am not familiar with Rheinhold's > hobbies. Perhaps they were considering merging the > companies? Or to discuss the best ways to get a better price > on Planar and Schneider lenses if the two companies combined > their orders. Again, all we can do is speculate. > > Peter K But now you are saying that Hasselblad convinced Heidecke about the Rollei SLR no production during that meeting, I think these changes of opinions are not the best samples for your positions. Carlos 2010/4/12 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>: > OK Marc, one last thing though. Here is what was stated for the record. Note > there is not a reference to my saying 1981 followed 1955. > > "> Hasselblad had ZERO interest in a TLR. That is a dream created by Rollei >> somewhere. Prochnow was daydreaming about that one. Victor used that >> threat >> as a means to convince Heidecke not to build an SLR. Heidecke took the >> bait >> and Rollei eventually failed. " > > My point was the SLR was ignored by Rollei until the mid 60s. Because of > this sales dropped, the owning families sold their shares, etc. Whether this > contributed to the eventual failure in 1981 we will never know. All ancient > history. But I do say they missed the boat. The ignored the market until it > was too late. The vast majority of wedding and commercial pros were using > Hasselblads including NASA years before the SL66 debuted. So even though the > SL66 made sales they did not exactly take market share from Hasselblad and > Mamiya was doing well in the 60s as most wedding photographers were using a > Hassy or Mamiya. Had Rollei embraced the SLR in the 50s when they pretty > much dominated the market things may have been different, but Hasselblad was > smart and it is my opinion that those at Rollei were not. > > At this point I will leave this thread alone as you ask. > > Cheers, > Peter K > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Marc James Small <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> >> At 02:36 PM 4/12/2010, Peter K. wrote: >>> >>> I never said 1981 followed 1955. Please read my posts before you say >>> something like this. >>> >> >> Peter >> >> I have read everything you have posted. You have consistently stated that >> the actions taken in 1955 were the central cause of the Rollei Foto-Technik >> bankruptcy in 1981. You might want to re-read your own posts. >> >> Let us give this thread a rest. >> >> Marc James Small >> Rollei List Owner >> >> >> >> >> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! >> >> --- >> Rollei List >> >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the >> subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in >> the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> >> - Online, searchable archives are available at >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> > > > > -- > Peter K > Ó¿Õ¬ > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list