[rollei_list] Re: ADMIN: Tone of Posts
- From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:15:29 -0700
Wow. You really are trying to show how smart you are by this "personal
attack." Somehow I think it back fired. Now let's see if you get warned.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:49 PM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Peter, your opinions have a complete lack of coherence, in 2005 you
> wrote that Hasselblad and Heidecke meeting perhaps had nothing to do
> with business and that there was not evidence about the agreement:
>
> > De: Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Asunto: [rolleiusers] OT: Heidecke meets Hasselblad meeting
> > Para: rolleiusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Fecha: domingo, 11 de septiembre de 2005, 16:53
> > Maybe it was a business meeting. The
> > reason for which we can only "speculate." Perhaps Victor and
> > Reinhold met to discuss birding? Perhaps they were BOTH into
> > bird watching. I for one am not familiar with Rheinhold's
> > hobbies. Perhaps they were considering merging the
> > companies? Or to discuss the best ways to get a better price
> > on Planar and Schneider lenses if the two companies combined
> > their orders. Again, all we can do is speculate.
> >
> > Peter K
>
> But now you are saying that Hasselblad convinced Heidecke about the
> Rollei SLR no production during that meeting, I think these changes of
> opinions are not the best samples for your positions.
>
> Carlos
>
>
> 2010/4/12 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > OK Marc, one last thing though. Here is what was stated for the record.
> Note
> > there is not a reference to my saying 1981 followed 1955.
> >
> > "> Hasselblad had ZERO interest in a TLR. That is a dream created by
> Rollei
> >> somewhere. Prochnow was daydreaming about that one. Victor used that
> >> threat
> >> as a means to convince Heidecke not to build an SLR. Heidecke took the
> >> bait
> >> and Rollei eventually failed. "
> >
> > My point was the SLR was ignored by Rollei until the mid 60s. Because of
> > this sales dropped, the owning families sold their shares, etc. Whether
> this
> > contributed to the eventual failure in 1981 we will never know. All
> ancient
> > history. But I do say they missed the boat. The ignored the market until
> it
> > was too late. The vast majority of wedding and commercial pros were using
> > Hasselblads including NASA years before the SL66 debuted. So even though
> the
> > SL66 made sales they did not exactly take market share from Hasselblad
> and
> > Mamiya was doing well in the 60s as most wedding photographers were using
> a
> > Hassy or Mamiya. Had Rollei embraced the SLR in the 50s when they pretty
> > much dominated the market things may have been different, but Hasselblad
> was
> > smart and it is my opinion that those at Rollei were not.
> >
> > At this point I will leave this thread alone as you ask.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Peter K
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Marc James Small <
> marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> At 02:36 PM 4/12/2010, Peter K. wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I never said 1981 followed 1955. Please read my posts before you say
> >>> something like this.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> I have read everything you have posted. You have consistently stated
> that
> >> the actions taken in 1955 were the central cause of the Rollei
> Foto-Technik
> >> bankruptcy in 1981. You might want to re-read your own posts.
> >>
> >> Let us give this thread a rest.
> >>
> >> Marc James Small
> >> Rollei List Owner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
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