Marc: In the Rollei Report 1, page 7-190 you can see the photograph about the Rolleiflex Standard prototype with Tessar 2.8/80 and size 0 Compur shutter PR 061, the comment says that on 1934 CZJ developed this faster lens for the prototype but the design was shelved because the lens performance was not yet satisfactory, Prochnow also adds that on 1938 the idea was taken up again "and the lens recomputed". I have no doubt that the two lenses Rollei bought on 1938 from CZ were to develope the 2.8A prototype. In the Rollei Report II, page 16-345 you can see the 1939 2.8A prototype PR 149 and you can read the reasons F&H couldn't manufacture for the market the camera before the WWII, the camera was developed again 10 years later. Perhaps I did not use right the word "re-designed", the exact word is "recomputed", you could recompute the same design, but both words have similar practical effects.- All the best Carlos --- Marc James Small <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribió: > At 08:23 PM 11/14/2006, Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote: > >Marc: > > On 1934 CZJ developed a Tessar 2.8/80 lens > >prototype for the Rolleiflex Standard, but it had > bad > >quality and F&H rejected the lens. > >On 1938 CZJ re-designed the Tessar 2.8/80 and this > >time F&H accepted the lens performance developing > the > >1939 Rolleiflex 2.8A 2.8/80 prototype (PR 149) but > the > >production couldn't begin due to the war, this > protype > >was the basis for the 1948 2.8A prototype with some > >changes. > > Carlos > > The factory is adamant that ALL 2.8/8cm CZJ > Tessars were made to the 1931 design save for the > 3 "Muster" lenses. The 2.8A CZJ Tessars were all > of Prewar or early wartime manufacture as no > 2.8/8cm Tessars were made at Jena after > 1941: the Postwar lenses were 2.8/80mm, but none > of those were made for Rolleiflex. So the tale > of a mid-1930's redesign to meet F&H needs appears > to be false. > > It would help if folks out there owning either > Ikoflex III or Rolleiflex 2.8's would submit > their serial numbers to confirm our picture of the > origin of these lenses. > > Incidentally, the camera is the 2.8, not the 2.8A > for the same reason that "Good Queen Bess" was > just Queen Elizabeth in her lifetime: she only > became "Queen Elizabeth I" in 1952 when the > present British monarch ascended the throne. To > F&H, the progression went from 2.8 to 2.8B: the > 3.5's went from Rolleiflex 3.5, followed by the > 3.5A. Properly, F&H should have called what we > now as the 2.8B the "2.8A" but for reasons unkknow, > they did not do so. > > Marc > > > > msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging > into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list