[rodgersorgan] Re: Rodgers 35D

  Well,  Once in a while we speak to soon.  I think I have a ghost in my 
instrument and Iâ??ll explain why and then maybe someone can help.
  I left the organ on yesterday for I guess about 4 hours or so.  I had those 
couple of remaining problems I spoke of in yesterdays post but that was ok with 
me as I stated.  I went back to the instrument after about 4 hours, hit my 
preset and all of a sudden I get a cipher.  I narrowed the cipher down to the 
great mixture, blockflute 8â??, â??4 flute and â??2 flute.  Getting a little 
nervous, I started checking other divisions.  No new ciphers however I learned 
that I gained full carillon and harp and my choir gemshorns which were missing 
earlier.  I shut the organ off, waited a while, (half hour), turn it back on 
and no cipher (good news) but also no carillon or gemshorn again.  After about 
10 minutes the cipher returns.  OK I say, lets go back to the manual and see 
what it says as far as ciphers and weâ??ll forget the choir problem for now.  
Well, the cipher is caused by a leaky keyer diode.  OK no problem Iâ??ll tackle 
that one in the morning and then weâ??ll check out the choir issue later.
   This morning comes, I check out the organ and guess what?  No cipher and 
gained back full choir divisionâ?¦.  I know itâ??s Halloween but this is spooky.
  At the moment the organ is %100 (knock on wood) except trems but who knows 
what can happen in the next couple of hoursâ?¦  
   So before I pull this monster out for service again and start touching 
things on my own when and if this occurs again I need some advice,
   What could this be?  The beginnings of a bad diode as far as the cipher?  
Heat inside the instrument causing better/worse connections?  And the choir 
issues really floor me.  This morning is the first time I ever turned the 
instrument on and got my full choir division including harp and carillon.  What 
is the recommended course of action should these problems continue?  Granted 
this may well be that since the instrument had been moved things are settling 
in?   
 Confused and spookedâ?¦
 Al
  
  
----- Original Message -----
From: dallas_wood1@xxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 1:36 PM
To: rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [rodgersorgan] Re: Rodgers 35D
  
   
Thankyou Noel for the Manual and Paul for offering help in the 
re-balancing/re-voicing/reconditioning of the instrument!  I was able to narrow 
down and correct most all problems.  Instead of 2 thirds of the organ working, 
I am now up to about 95 percent.
  The remaining 5 percent is not important enough at the moment but i'll 
describe the symptoms to anyone who is interested as i can not quite get these 
two problems narrowed down.    

  Prior to following the manual and resetting ALL voices and output chasis 
settings i had little or no choir voices, no carillon and harp, no celestes, 
etc, etc...  Whomever adjusted this instrument before really did a crappy job 
as some stuff was maxed out such as the diapaison out and some were completely 
shut out like the giegen diap on the swell rack.

  So now that i have followed the revoicing/rebalancing instructions, here are 
the remaining troublesome discoveries:

1.  The unit flute output is not consistant in pattern as the outher 7 outputs 
on the output chasis.  My instrument is mixed to 4 channels fed into a 
radioshack mixer board.  The channels are as follows:
  1.  Unit Diap
  2.  Swell reeds + flutes (mixed at the output chasis)
  3.  Pedal
  4.  Unit Flute (this caries the great flutes, most of the choir division and 
a few scattered stops here and there.)
  This output seems to peg the VU meters on the mixer board yet the volume is 
way to low.  I can and have avoided this by turning the treble EQ setting all 
the way down and found a happy medium but something is wrong with either this 
output or somewhere else inside the organ.  Problem 2 leads me to beleive there 
is something inside the organ -   

2.  The Gemshorn is completely dead on the choir except for the top octave and 
a half. ??  The gemshorn celeste is fine.
3.  Gemshorn '16 is dead on the great.
4.  Bourdon '16 dead on pedal.
5.  Prestant '4 dead on swell.  There are no LDR lamps for the gemshorn (except 
the celeste) that i can find.
6.  Twelth 2 2/3 same as # two only this is on the great.
7.  Trems are extremely weak and un-detectable in normal playing.  Can only 
hear them thru headphones while adjusting.  After adjustment, trems stop.

  I have a feeling that with exception of the trems, All other problems are 
related.  Any Ideas?  Also, Where can I get the bulbs for the LDR's?  I beleive 
they are # 19 bulbs.  Radioschack does not seem to carry a similar bulb.    

Thanks all!

Al
----- Original Message -----
From: Harry Littman
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 8:12 PM
To: rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [rodgersorgan] Re: rodgersorgan Digest V1 #119
   

on 10/18/02 10:07 AM, ERingquist@xxxxxxx at ERingquist@xxxxxxx wrote:

> In a message dated 10/18/2002 2:15:23 AM Central Daylight Time,
> ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>   
>   
>> I'm looking into buying a real zimberstern for my 960.
>> I've seen real ones, and they're very cool
>> The one I saw was sitting on top of the console, and there were 6 tiny
>> bells hanging on these tiny hooks, arranged in a circle, while a hammer
>> in the middle spun around slowly, striking them one by one.
>> Any ideas how much this costs?
>>   
>> Carlo Pietroniro
>> St. Patrick's Basilica
>> Montreal, Quebec
>> 3m Casavant Opus 60, 1895
>> Rodgers 960 at home
>>   
>   
> Carlo -   
>   
> We buy our real Zimbelsterns from New Century Products located in San Diego,
> CA
> The price of a light oak or dark walnut model is $604.00.  If your Basilica
> is over 1,000 seats, they normally recommend a Glockenstern, which has 7
> large brass bells (the Zimbelstern has 9 small brass bells) and has a
> 'larger' bell sound.
>   
> New Century Products is located at P.O. Box 27011, San Diego, CA  92198.
> They can be reached at (858) 486-2505.  Their website is www.zimbelstern.com
>   
> They do (and encourage) ordering from their website.  Hope this helps you!
>   
> Eric Ringquist, Business Manager
> S.B. Smith & Associates, Inc.
> Authorized Representatives for Rodgers Digital and Ruffatti Pipe Organs
> Elmhurst, Illinois
>   
>   
> A MIDI Musical Christmas 2002
> An Angelic Christmas 2001
> Music for the PR-300 and Organ Solo at Frog Music Press
>   
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>   
>   
In case anyone is interested, the Rodgers Black Beauty has a "real"
Zimbelstern.  It is 6 bells and was labeled Cymbelstern, available as a
drawknob and reversible toe stud.  It can be heard on 2 of the "Heavy Organ"
albums done by Fox.

Harry Littman
Denver, CO
Organ enthusiast & former Black Beauty owner

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Music for the PR-300 and Organ Solo at Frog Music Press

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