[rodgersorganusers] Re: New Organ Blues

The original question was should the factory publish a 
 price for the new sound module.  My vote is yes.  I would 
like to have some idea if this is something I can afford 
before I bother my local rep.  If he wants to discount it 
or not in order to help move the purchase along is 
something for us to work out.

As to the rest of the discussion, I'm also a local church 
treasurer and CFO for a not-for-profit.  We just completed 
a church building project. We gave our architect specific 
direction regarding budget, to which he responded much as 
Al has below.  He gathered in all the wishes, put them 
into a design, and was resistant when asked about price 
along the way.  When the building went out for bid, it 
came in 50% over what we had agreed upon.  By then, 
members of the congregation were invested in various 
aspects of the project.  We eventually ended up somewhere 
in the middle, but it was painful, and we have more debt 
than I believe is wise.  Our architect improved his 
commission, but feels he did a lot of extra work to earn 
it.  From my perspective, don't ask me to recommend him to 
another congregation.

Fortunately, our local Rodgers dealer, worked with us on 
balancing price and need from the start.  He was very up 
front about pricing -- and kindly let us know what we 
could afford and where we would need to make compromises. 
 This did take some time on both sides, but moved along. 
 When we were given the final price, there were some 
adjustments, but they were relatively minor.  We are very 
happy with the results and look forward to working with 
him in the future.

It helps immesurably to have some sense of price early. 
 That way no one's time is wasted.  This is particularly 
true of ancillary items like a sound module, and is 
probably true of self-contained organs used at home.

So much for my 2 cents worth and why.

George Andersson
St. Louis, MO
535 and PR300S at home, 
T807/4 rank pipe combination at church


On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:59:55 -0800 (PST)
  Al Murrell <tam6111949@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>Kathy, when I am meeting with committees, we/they
>don't always know which model, what the church might
>be willing to do with respect to modifications of the
>room, and many other facets of the process.  I do talk
>in general terms but I do not arrive a final price
>until almost the very end of the process.  I realize
>committee members are volunteers and that their time
>is valuable but so is mine.  I schedule my time to
>meet with them and the chairperson can't even get his
>entire committee to show up for my presentation, or
>the demonstration but yet he/she will allow these
>individuals who have not attended any of the meetings
>to have a vote.  This happens more times than you can
>imagine.  Members should not accept the task if they
>can't make their schedule work so that they attend ALL
>of the meetings.
>
>What would you suggest for my pipe organ customers? 
>There is no way for me to deal in prices with them
>until the very very end and the specs are completed
>and space requirements allocated etc.  Each of my
>Rodgers installations are somewhat customized and
>until I get to the end of the process, I don't really
>know my exact price.  This has never been a problem
>with my customers to my knowledge.  
>
>Al
>> > --- noel jones wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > A list member just wrote me with the obvious
>> > > question...what is the 
>> > > list price of the new box?
>> > > 
>> > > There are no list prices. If you feel that
>> Rodgers
>> > > customers might 
>> > > benefit from having a list price to refer to,
>> > please
>> > > email me and I will 
>> > > forward your email to Rodgers.
>> > > 
>> > > Thanks!
>> > > 
>> > > If you think, they should not - let us know why.
>> > > 
>> > > noel jones


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