[rodgersorganusers] Re: New Organ Blues

I think you have to establish some level of trust with
your dealership.  I realize most dealers don't stock
the 8 or 10 models like we tend to do.  I know dealers
who will put instruments on a truck and take to a
customer - dealers who don't have showrooms.  And, if
I were looking to spend the level of money we are
generally discussing, I would drive to hear that
instrument regardless.  I have customers who drive 2
200 miles plus to my showroom.  I also get calls from
people outside my assigned market area and I WILL NOT
quote prices to them.  Rodgers dealers are not
franchised, they are manufacturers reps.  I work very
hard to maintain a personal level of integrity with my
pricing. This is a small business and we dealers
cannot afford to rip one church off and then give it
away to another.  With respect to a basic self
contained organ, I would be willing to give out a
price over the phone to a known customer within my
assigned market area ONLY.  I won't give prices to a
church who will NOT take time to go listen to my
presentation.  They are just price shopping and I will
not participate in that.  I was told 31 years ago when
I started with Rodgers that "Neither Price Nor Product
Determine the Sale".

Al  
--- ronnie johnston <rjohnston@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Ellen,
> 
> I see your point, but there are many organists out
> there that live 100's of
> miles from our "dealer."  Exactly what do you
> suggest for people that live
> that far away, and the dealership has 1 or 2 organs
> in stock--maybe.  And,
> of those organs, you'll not find a 3 manual in the
> bunch.  People like me
> have to depend on the internet.  The western US is a
> far cry from the
> populated east where you have many dealers; this I
> know from searching the
> web.
> 
> Ronnie Johnston
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bardo Ellen" <Ellen.Bardo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:27 AM
> Subject: [rodgersorganusers] Re: New Organ Blues
> 
> 
> >
> > I see where all you guys who want the prices
> posted are coming from, but
> > you're missing one important point--call your
> local Rodgers Dealer and get
> a
> > price from him.  If you don't trust the price you
> get--you think it's
> > inflated--that's your problem and you have to deal
> with it.  Otherwise you
> > can get a price and you can bet they want the
> installation to reflect
> > favorably on them.  Having just endured the price
> war so far as buying a
> new
> > organ for the church I will say your best choice
> is to talk to the dealer
> or
> > the rep in your area because they want you to be
> happy and buying on price
> > alone is not, in my opinion, the best way to
> insure your longterm
> > satisfaction with the instrument you buy.  Also,
> you may find at the end
> of
> > the calendar year they want to reduce their
> inventory and you will get an
> > unbelievably good price--if you're looking at the
> list price you may not
> > know that.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Al Murrell [mailto:tam6111949@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 6:53 AM
> > To: rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [rodgersorganusers] Re: New Organ Blues
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe I need to be more specific. There are base
> > prices for each model and for the modules. 
> However,
> > since every installation is different with respect
> to
> > speakers used, amps used, wall mounting, chamber
> > installation, freight charges, distance to
> > installation, warranty offered by local dealer,
> > internal speaker organs with external amps and
> > speakers, interfacing with pipe organs, special
> > finishes, custom finishes, different keyboards,
> etc.,
> > it makes it hard to say what a product might cost.
> > All of this affects what the price of a particular
> > instrument might be and car dealers don't have
> many of
> > these aspects to deal with in the sale of a car.
> > Therefore there isn't a standard price so to
> speak.
> > Most dealers won't quote prices even over the
> phone. I
> > have not taken this position to be coy or anything
> > like that, its just hard to say what a price of a
> > model is since so many things affect that price
> that
> > are unknown until we get into the project.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > --- William Hubert <whubert@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am sorry to have to STRONGLY disagree with Al
> on
> > > the subject of not
> > > listing prices anywhere. The internet is all
> about
> > > information and one of
> > > the most relevant items on ANY product is a
> relative
> > > price. I prefer a Rolex
> > > because of its appearance over a Timex, but when
> I
> > > learn of the relative
> > > price of the Rolex it  dictates that I can't
> > > consider the Rolex.
> > >
> > > It amazes me that anyone can feel that
> withholding
> > > information that can
> > > ultimately help in the sale of a product is a
> good
> > > thing.
> > >
> > > After all we are almost all finitely limited in
> our
> > > financial resources.
> > > Al's attitude sounds like J.P Morgan talking
> about
> > > yachts "IF you have to
> > > ask the price, you can't afford it!"
> > >
> > > I might be interested in a module and put it on
> my
> > > wish list, but without a
> > > indicator of price I simply will put it out of
> my
> > > mind as no price
> > > indicateds it is not affordable.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rodgersorgan-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:rodgersorgan-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf
> > > Of Al Murrell
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 11:19 PM
> > > To: rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [rodgersorganusers] Re: New Organ Blues
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Noel, prices should not ever be posted on this
> or
> > > any
> > > other site for general viewing.  As you know
> there
> > > are
> > > dealers who almost give away the products and
> then
> > > there are those who get somewhere close to
> industry
> > > margins.  Free Enterprise needs to prevail.  Let
> the
> > > market work.
> > >
> > > Al
> > > --- noel jones <gedeckt@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  A list member just wrote me with the obvious
> > > > question...what is the
> > > > list price of the new box?
> > > >
> > > > There are no list prices.  If you feel that
> > > Rodgers
> > > > customers might
> > > > benefit from having a list price to refer to,
> > > please
> > > > email me and I will
> > > > forward your email to Rodgers.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > If you think, they should not - let us know
> why.
> > > >
> > > > noel jones
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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