[rodgersorgan] Re: New List Member in Utah

Rodgers now constructs much better consoles than they did in
past years. Allen and Rodgers make good hand crafted
furniture. Some European makers have not chosen to do that.
My organ is made of solid alder wood. My wife had earlier
decided to banish the organ to the basement, but has changed
her mind based on the quality of furniture and wood.

Good luck in your search. 

>>> dbrickett@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09/17/03 21:39 PM >>>

Rick-

Thanks for listing your Rodgers vs. Allen reasons.  I own a
25-year-old 
Allen which we use at church.  I hope that the church will
be 
purchasing a new organ within the next 5 years.  I have felt
for some 
time that Allen constructs a better console but Rodgers
sounds and 
capabilities frequently beat the Allen.  It will get very
interesting 
as we begin researching them in earnest.

Doug Brickett
Organist
Vista Grande Baptist Church
Colorado Springs, CO

On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 08:39  PM, ************
wrote:

>
> Why Rodgers versus Allen. I have to be careful with this
> one. First, the Allen dealer here in Utah and where I was
at
> in Idaho were very good dealers. I came close to buying an
> Allen as a replacement but backed off after I went through
> an Allen organ stop by stop and found some sound problems.
>
> I actually built a huge spreadsheet comparing the
> differences between equivalent cost Allen, and Rodgers
> organs. In many areas Rodgers was better, in several Allen
> was. I also looked at Church Organ Systems,
Ahlborn-Galanti,
> Johannus, and Viscount.
>
> In fact, in one day in July I did a 200 mile drive so I
> could sample each of the organs at each dealer. Allen and
> Rodgers had better sounds than all the rest, in spite of
the
> fact that the American brands are often twice the cost for
> equivalent stop numbers.
>
> But in the end, I felt the Rodgers came closest to
> replicating a classical pipe organ--based on my own
> subjective interpretation of about 20 measurements. That
> doesn't mean Rodgers is better than Allen for everyone,
just
> to my ears, my pocketbook, and my research.
>
> I've found that it's often difficult to listen to dealers
> rip on each other in terms of the quality of samples, etc.
> You can say that a Johannus organ has the highest sample
> rate per rank of any organ (except Walker), but if it
isn't
> voiced, amplified, and installed correctly, all of those
> individual note samples won't do a bit of good.
>
> Also, in Allen's defense, no one can doubt the quality of
> their service and that they back up their product for
years.
>
> But Allen is very slow to introduce new technology.
They've
> made only minor annual upgrades since Renaissance was
first
> introduced. Although Renaissance sounds great compared to
my
> current Allen models, sound/computer technology made leaps
> and bounds in the last five years.
>
> I also, honestly, looked at this list and the Allen list.
> This list seems to be a great community dedicated to
> utilizing the Rodgers features and promoting sacred and
> classical music. Allen seems to have captured many of the
> theatre organ crowd with whom I don't easily identify (I'm
> only 34, sorry). It seemed like I fit the mold of the
> Rodgers community better than the Allen Theater Organ
> Community.
>
> So, I'm glad to be here and I'm not looking back. I will,
> however, look at Allen again in ten years and see if
they're
> not still resting on their laurels (and an ancient MDS
> Expander II!).
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>>>> candk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 09/17/03 19:38 PM >>>
>
> Rick:
>
> Havng owned two previous Allen organs, can you tell us why
> you decided to s=
> witch?
>
> Thanks
>
> KRK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Vincent" <vincenri@xxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:59:33 -0600
> To: <rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [rodgersorgan] New List Member in Utah
>
> Hello, my name is Rick Vincent. I am a new list member
from
> Provo, Utah.
>
> I just purchased a Rodgers 967, to be installed in about a
> month (I can't wait).
>
> I've read through some of the posts on the list and see
that
> the Rodgers community is a very active one and very
focused
> on music.
>
> I also own two older Allen instruments, but will be giving
> those up to make room for the big three manual. Therefore,
I
> cancelled my subscription yesterday to the Allen Owners
list
> and am coming over to the other side.
>
> Rick
> !
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