[rodgersorgan] Re: Christmas Music at Christmas



Some examples of Southern Gospel songs are Goodbye World, Goodbye, I've Been 
Changed, Hold to God's Unchanging Hand, Ten Thousand Years, and I'll Fly 
Away. I love southern gospel music, and I play it on the organ quite 
frequently along with classical, contemporary, and hymns. My Rodgers is 
wonderful for all these styles.

Matt G.
CaddyOrganist@xxxxxxxxxxx





>From: "Amos Ho" <amosho77@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [rodgersorgan] Re: Christmas Music at Christmas
>Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 23:34:48 +0800
>
>
>
>Hello,Richard:
>
>Thank you for your sharing.Yes,In Hong Kong,the contemporary music CD and
>scores fill up the christian book shop too.That is the first time I heard
>about the "South gospel style".Can you list some song's name for example?
>
>I born in a chinese idol worshipper family in 1955.Since I was  a boy,My
>parent lead me to worship idol.Until I was 21 years old,I met a christian 
>in
>the evening school, he told me the gospel,Jesus Christ and I finally joined
>in church for 25 years.I was not trained in classical music ,my parent is
>not christian and they don't like me to be a christian.So I decide to 
>follow
>Jesus and choose traditional worship style by myself.In my life,accept 
>Jesus
>Christ as my saviour is the firstly right thing,marry my wife is the
>secondly right thing.These are the most important testment in my life.
>
>In my spiritual life growth experience,we must control the flesh and don't
>let it control our life,then we can have the fruit of spirit.The bible says
>that we gain the strength in clam and stable.But the Drums,electric guitar
>and contemporary music just do it opposely.They just provide the flesh
>exciting and not like the tradition music inspire your spirit  to worship
>God.Jesus said"Worship him with spirit and honestly".In the old 
>testment,God
>request Isreal people that they must follow his instruction to worship
>him,otherwise they will die.God regard Abel's offering and don't regard
>Cain's offering.God is a holy God and he has request.Another point we
>suspect who is the master role in the contemporary music worship?Good 
>church
>is God's home and a human soceity,but bad church is just a human
>soceity,even though it grow up and it just still a human soceity.If a
>worship just let the fresh exciting,will God join in?So just human being
>speak to us not God.I answer your question that I need God speak with my
>soul in the worship.I come out from a idol worshipper family and worship 
>the
>real God.I don't want to come back again to woship the human being.When I
>heard a majesty organ perlude,it just like the God's glory fill in the
>church.I like the color window and wooden giant cross,those icon make my
>spirit to concetrate to worship God.But Drums just let me thinking about
>night club music.These are just my feeling and sharing,I don't intend to
>hurt anybody,I have different though with the contemporary music people,may
>be different pupose too.I just a pilgrim.I need a worship helps me to keep
>my eternal life.
>
>I agree "If God is behind it, we cannot stop it.  If it is the works of 
>men,
>it will die of its own accord." So I don't want to raise any quarrel in my
>church and I just choose my way.
>
>Music is another media,it has some influence that speech can't done.Music
>can heal the spirit.David play music to heal King Saul's headache.Of
>course,night club music can make you over exciting so that you will lost
>control.
>
>Love in Christ
>Amos Ho
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee.aaa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:03 AM
>Subject: [rodgersorgan] Re: Christmas Music at Christmas
>
>
> >
> > Hello, Amos Ho:
> >
> > Maybe we should first say that your experience is not
> > unique.  Many American churches have similar music
> > varieties.  One of my sons likes "all contemporary."
> > One of my daughters likes a "blended" worship experience
> > where they sing hymns, gospel songs, and some of the
> > contemporary choruses.  I am a classically trained
> > church musician, and find that each worship situation
> > and each church may require some of all music styles,
> > only a few of the contemporary styles, or only
> > traditional hymns and gospel songs.  Some like
> > to hear the organ "roar;" some relegate the organ to
> > a background sound with piano taking the instrumental
> > lead.  I met with one church who wanted only quiet,
> > reflective organ music in their worship.
> >
> > What we are experiencing is not totally new.  We had
> > a considerable effort 50 years ago to separate the
> > Southern Gospel style from traditional church music.
> > It was held generally by our established traditions
> > that the Souther Gospel style robbed the church by
> > assembling crowds on Saturday night for some
> > "good ole toe-tapping music," but the people would
> > not come to church on Sunday morning with the rest
> > of the people in traditional worship.
> >
> > I believe that the church in 2002 is faced with
> > another dichotomy in worship styles, but the music
> > of the contemporary style is supported with constant
> > broadcast over "Christian" music stations that refuse
> > to play "church" music, ...ever.  The Contemporary
> > Christian Music style is fed by very large commerce
> > in new recordings.  That much emphasis placed on
> > music in the contemporary style will not go away.
> > The business/commerce makes too much money with it.
> >
> > So, the contemporary music style is proliferated
> > almost "free of charge" that may or may not set
> > well with those who come to church to refresh
> > themselves in the Spirit of God, looking for some
> > stability in their lives.  The singing of traditional
> > hymns and gospel songs and the recitation of creeds
> > and prayers in church offers much comfort for those
> > whose lives are a battle from Sunday to Sunday.
> >
> > However, there are those who look for a "good time"
> > in church, ...much as those who went to the Saturday
> > night "singings" with the Southern Gospel crowds.
> > You can still find churches today that hold on strong
> > to the Southern Gospel style.  I suspect that we will
> > have churches hold onto the "good feel" of high-energy
> > praise music in the contemporary style for generations
> > to come.
> >
> > I remember a flyer that was brought to my door from
> > a contemporary-minded church in my town.  They said:
> >    "No more boring organ music!!!  We offer only the
> >     best of high-energy praise music."
> > The pictures of persons playing electric bass, drums,
> > electric guitar, banjo, and praise singers clapping
> > their hands told their story.  They have three large
> > crowds every week; one on Saturday night and two on
> > Sunday morning.  Apparently, they are meeting some
> > people's needs, for the church continues to grow.
> >
> > However, I find that after working all week long
> > and dealing with stressful situations, I do not
> > find my "rest in the Lord" by strenuous praise
> > music sessions.  Those wear me out.
> >
> > I try to maintain an open mind to how others think
> > and feel in their spiritual pilgrimage, but find
> > that I am actually intollerant when the music styles
> > in my worship experience are rendered in the same
> > mood as the Saturday night rhythm and blues or
> > frenzied orgies of acid metal that suggest rebellion
> > of all that is decent and in order.
> >
> > I am not a liturgist, but have no real quarrel with
> > those who think that way.  I am in favor of thinking
> > outside the box in worship music styles, but do not
> > belive we should throw away 2000 years of heritage
> > just because some people in the 1960s thought we
> > should reject the authority of anyone over 25 years
> > of age, and all that goes with them, including the
> > Bible, God (who supposedly died, according to Nitschke)
> >  (did I spell his name right?).
> >
> > Every development in worship music from plainsong/chant
> > to the very latest in contemporary style has had to
> > weather the test of time and opinion.  My youthful
> > studies in Church Music found that the opinion held
> > by most people when the gospel hymns of the early
> > 19th Century were introduced that they were considered
> > "trash" that should never be allowed inside a proper
> > church.  Well, gospel hymns are still with us, and,
> > now and then, we even find well written and musically
> > composed new ones hymns and gospel songs that join
> > that the larger heritage church music.
> >
> > Let me pose a more fundamental question for your
> > consideration.
> >
> >    "What speaks to your soul during worship?"
> >
> > Another thing I learned in Church Music studies was
> > attributed to Saint Augustine.  He said,  "I do
> > not know which moves me more; the music or the
> > Holy Spirit."  I brought that into the disucssion
> > to show that our impressions of movement in our
> > worship experiences is not a new question.
> >
> > Among us are advocates of all that is good.  As we
> > view new styles and expressions, let us be more
> > like Gamaliel as he advised the Sanhedrin regarding
> > the early works of the Apostles:  "If God is behind
> > it, we cannot stop it.  If it is the works of men,
> > it will die of its own accord."  Maybe that is the
> > way we might view the contemporary music style and
> > its impact on our worship experiences.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Appreciatively,
> > F. Richard Burt
> >
> >
> > .
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