[rodgersorgan] Re: Christmas Music at Christmas



Dear All:

As my church become more and more contemporary in the worship music and I
can't effect them back(As a choir director) to traditional style.I find out
that I can't concentrate my sprite to worship God in this worship style.I
solve this problem by leaving my church and join other church's worship
which still keep the traditional style.Now I always join the Anglican church
worship.

In Hong Kong,facing the contemporary music effect.Different church has
different solution.Some church adds drum,bass guitar and screen in their
traditional worship music,some church give up the traditional style in the
worship music.Some church separate it and they provide tradition style
worship and contemporary style worship in different time and space.Of
course.like this web site,it has many opinion and discussion in worship
style and music.In my opinion,just like various food.some people enjoy
everything and some people just enjoy one kind.They have their reason.In
food,I can enjoy everything but I only accept traditional worship style.

I really enjoy in this topic discussion even though I have not much to share
because I'm not organist.I thanks all your sharing that make me more
realizing about how to see contemporary music.

Amos Ho
China Hong Kong
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt G." <caddyorganist@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 12:11 PM
Subject: [rodgersorgan] Re: Christmas Music at Christmas


>
>
> As a teenager who gets both sides of the church music coin, I still feel
> that in a worship service (noram sunday am etc) that the organ WITH drums
> and piano, and a bass, and a guitar (ours is an acoustic electric) is a
> great combonaion. For example while singing All Hail the Power of Jesus'
> Name, the band alone can't get that feeling and sound needed to lead this
> hymn. Yet on a hymn like Victory in Jesus, the addition of drums and piano
> etc add something that the organ can't do by itself. On a Praise and
Worship
> chorus like Agnus Dei, the organ can provide, this time in an accomp role,
a
> foundation that is lacking in th band. The organ can survive if we want it
> to. The organ may not always need to be the lead instrument, on the other
> hand, the organ doesn't always need to be in the backround. As organists
we
> need to learn to be more open minded to new forms of music. We also can't
> forget the great old music either. I am constantly baffled as to why so
many
> organists feel threatened by praise and worship. Find ways to add the
organ
> to these songs. For example on a great new song Let my Words be Few, I
> generally choose use Flutes 8 1-1/3 and Flute Celeste and chord, providing
a
> nice foundation for the song. We can't play everything on a Principal
> chorus. To anybody who can make sense out of this rambling, I congratulate
> you.
>
> Matt G.
> CaddyOrganist@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Ralph Cullen <rcullen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [rodgersorgan] Re: Christmas Music at Christmas
> >Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:37:21 +1300
> >
> >
> >
> >Very well said Noel,
> >Far from being off topic, I am thankful this issue has at last been
raised,
> >and needs to be discussed at length. It is central to the identity of the
> >organ in today's churches and is the subject above all others that will
> >bring me out of my closet to make comment.
> >As one who has recently been asked to play "without the pedals" by the
> >music "leader" (an electric guitarist) and one who flatly refused, in a
fit
> >of final rebellion (and it was final) against church "musicianship" who
> >don't have a clue that the organ is NOT a backing instrument for a
band...
> >(My ! that is a long sentence and it's not even finished!).. I would like
> >to hereby endorse this discussion about the role of the organ in
> >contemporary churches and seek to find some answers as to how we can
> >promote same yet again, as the king of instruments in such places.
> >I for one have found that most people in churches love to sing and the
key
> >for me has been to encourage good hymn singing rather than to try and
> >endorse the organ as a classical instrument (No slight here against
> >classical literature, but above all else, the Organ stands as the
ultimate
> >leader and support for congregational singing) In fact, I have seen great
> >surprise in many people who never knew they could sing so uninhibitedly.
> >The band never did it for them! Never will! Who can sing to a guitar and
> >drums..???. One is forced to listen in that context, not to lift one's
> >voice at all...
> >By the way Noel, Thanks for the CD. Arrived safely.. haven't had time to
> >delve yet, but looking forward to it.
> >Ralph
> >Rodgers Organs
> >New Zealand
> >At 02:31 PM 12/4/2002, you wrote:
> > >Free Priority Mail Shipping through the Holidays from on music from
Frog
> > >Music Press!
> >
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> > >
> > >John,
> > >
> > >Your comment is welcome.
> > >
> > >However, this is an Independent  Rodgers Organ Discussion Group.  We
who
> > >play Rodgers
> > >Organs find ourselves most often playing them in churches. Strange, but
> > >true.   Some
> > >churches follow a church year and the Rodgers Organ is used to fulfill
> > >those musical
> > >demands.  Other churches choose to ignore the church year, celebrating
> > >only the church
> > >festivals that they feel appropriate.  My Amish friends celebrate
> > >Christmas and
> > >Ascension Day only.  They also worship in barns and homes and do not
use
> > >Rodgers
> > >Organs.  They do not find playing and selling and designing Rodgers
> >Organs
> > >an offensive
> > >occupation for me to be in.  They just wouldn't do it themselves.
> > >
> > >In private e-mails I hear the cries of those who have large Rodgers
> >Organs
> > >that can
> > >uplift a worshiping community and are instead relegated to playing
backup
> > >to a Praise
> > >Band.  Organists who are told not to play the pedals because it
> >interferes
> > >with the Bass
> > >Player's bass line.  When did the corporate singing of a church. led by
> > >the corporate
> > >singing of the choir and the organ become a sing along with
microphones,
> > >choreography.
> >
> >
> >-
> >
> >May all your bloopers be grace notes this hoiliday season! From the Staff
> >at FMP
> >
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