[roc-chat] Re: Prospective new member

Location, Location, Location

I do not know of a location to bad. I have two areas in mind though. One  is in 
Perris, but it is directly below March AFB landing approach yuck. There is 
already a RC Place landing strip there and they have permission from EMWD 
eastern municipal water district for use I believe.

The other area is behind Lake Perris, there is some huge flat open space there 
but I do not know who owns the land. Some of the land is farm I imagine. I 
drive by it weekly big area. Beyond that I do not know.

Eric



From: Richard Dierking 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 1:33 PM
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Prospective new member

Here's the hoop (and it's a fiery hoop), you must get permission from the 
landowner.  The permission should be in writing.  Then, you need to go to the 
fire department to obtain a permit.  This can be a city fire department or if 
it's unincorporated, the County Fire Department (CFD).  If it's a city fire 
department, they may also ask for you to get the City's permission.
 
I've obtained fire permits in Temecula, Murrieta, Lake Elsinore, Hemet, and a 
couple CDF permits.  The first permit from the City of Temecula took over one 
year.  I've heard that I am the only person that has ever obtained a fire 
permit for a rocket launch in the County of Riverside.  When I got the permit, 
the Fire Marshall (you know, the fire fighter with the 9 mil on his hip) told 
me that if anything went south, he would be looking for me.  So, they're 
serious about the permit!
 
The County of Riverside is huge.  If enough people got together and pursued a 
launch site it might be a go, but don't make a mistake.
 
Richard  


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From: ericwil76@xxxxxxxx
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Prospective new member
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:15:45 -0800


I will say this, it would be nice if there was an HPR site in Riverside county. 
I can never make the ROC launches to many family/work obligations on the 
weekends. It is nice for all the people that live in the high desert but it 
sure is a drive and time killer for me. Just dreaming I guess, maybe a map can 
be studied and find some open space out of the way of airline traffic. I do not 
know all the legal hoops but if anyone else does feel free to share.

Eric


From: Jason Nordgren 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:57 PM
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Prospective new member

It's a little bit of a trek from Temecula (although no where near as long as 
Lucerne :) ), but you might try Diamond Valley Lake Community Park (if you 
haven't already). I launch there individually on occasion and my son goes to 
the Western Center Academy at that site and I believe they do a launch on 
occasion through the school. I don't know if they cross all their I's and dot 
all their T's, but it seems to indicate that it's at least a possibility. You 
can get more info at the Valley Wide Recreation website: www.vwrpd.org and I 
can try to get more information from the school principal if you would like 
some assistance. If you want to talk about it more off chat, feel free to email 
me at jason.nordgren@xxxxxxxxxx 

-Jason


On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Richard Dierking wrote: 


  Sorry to say, TRG doesn't currently have a good launch site.  I'm continuing 
to pursue through the City of Temecula, but didn't have any luck over the 
summer.  I'm conducting a model rocket workshop for about 30 Cub Scouts next 
week, and another workshop at the Temecula Library on Weds, January 11th.  It 
would sure be nice having a local launch for these kids.  Until I find one, I'm 
suggesting launching with ROC.
   
  There's teacher at Lakeside High School in Lake Elsinore that might be 
planning launches at the school.  It's an excellent site.  I'll check to see if 
they're planning any launches.
   
  Richard


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  From: jason.nordgren@xxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Prospective new member
  Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:35:32 -0800
  To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

  Thanks for the correction guys. That's what I get for opening my trap before 
I fully researched the topic. :) Still, as Rick and Richard both said, even if 
you're not flying HP it's a very good idea. 

  P.S. Richard, are you still running low power launches through TRG? I live in 
Hemet and it would be nice to get out for a little closer launch every now and 
again.

  On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Richard Dierking wrote:


    Currently, National Association of Rocketry (NAR) or Tripoli Rocket 
Association (TRA) membership is not required to fly at ROC launches, and you 
don't have to be a member of either organization to be a ROC member.  However, 
it's true that you obtain insurance when you join TRA or NAR - so it's a very 
good idea.
     
    I'm not an insurance agent, but the insurance coverage's for both TRA and 
NAR are similar.  If you're thinking about joining NAR or TRA, I suggest 
visiting their websites and taking a look at the policies and the FAQ's listed 
for insurance.  The deductibles are different for the two organizations.
     
    There are other benefits of joining NAR or TRA and again I suggest checking 
out their websites.  Whether to join NAR or TRA comes up frequently, and some 
people feel very strongly about one or the other.  For me, I say "join both!"  
NAR started out in model rocketry, and is considered the more nurturing of the 
two organizations.  TRA had its beginnings in high-power and that says a lot.
     
    If you have questions, one of the best place to get answers is at a ROC 
launch.   We love rocketry and sharing information.
     
    Hope this helps,
    Richard Dierking 

    > Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Prospective new member
    > From: jason.nordgren@xxxxxxxxx
    > Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:43:55 -0800
    > To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > 
    > Hi Brian. I'm new to the group too and I can say that they're a great 
bunch. I did my L1 last month and Rick and Jack especially were of tremendous 
help and both of them were very friendly. I had been watching the chat list for 
quite a while prior to my launch and attended LDRS an NSL as a spectator and 
I've never seen a group more willing to help each other out. I just paid my 
daily launch fee last time since I could only make it for one day, but I plan 
to "officially" join in January. Come out this weekend and I'm sure you'll 
agree it's well worth it. 
    > 
    > Cheers and welcome from a fellow newb,
    > -Jason
    > 
    > P.S. if you're not yet a member of NAR or Tripoli you can join on site. 
It is a requirement to be a member of one of those orgs (for insurance reasons) 
before you can fly. You can even join and cert that day if you want to fly High 
power. 
    > 
    > Sent from my iPhone
    > 
    > On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Brian Morilak <brian.morilak@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    > 
    > > Hey everyone,
    > > My name is Brian Morilak and I am brand new to So Cal. I moved to Apple 
Valley last weekend to start a new job at SCLA, born and raised in Ohio. I have 
buiilt and flown Estes for the last 16 years (usually just once a year). I 
assumed that since now I live in a desert, there'd be rocketry clubs, looks 
like I was right. I found this one and I'm interested in coming out to the next 
launch (this weekend right?). Wondering who I should introduce myself to out 
there in regard to membership. 
    > 
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