[roc-chat] Re: Launch site.

  • From: Allen H Farrington <allen.farrington@xxxxxx>
  • To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 18:23:27 -0700

I will let Richard answer this one definitively since he's laying out the new 
arrangement.

The intent is to prevent folks driving to the range head from crossing through 
the active range. However, the definition of the "range" is variable depending 
on whether or not your are talking about launch safety distance or launch site 
dimensions or FAA waiver limits. For example, in the traditional configuration, 
the "range" includes everywhere folks park (FAA and Launch Site definition), 
but parking and spectators are not within the Launch Safety part of the range.

I believe that Richard is preparing a drawing so that it makes sense to 
everyone.

Allen

On May 9, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Allen H Farrington wrote:

> For everyone interested, here is the actual plot of where the traditional ROC 
> range head is. We will issue more later but rest assured that we're trying 
> hard to minimize the change to the membership. This change was prompted to 
> keep most of our recovery area on the BLM "square" of land (#26) thus 
> limiting our incursions into privately held land. We're trying to minimize 
> our incursions on the private land in order to prevent the need for insurance 
> certificates, permission, etc… (per NFPA & CA law, not BLM rules) for 
> launching operations.
> 
> Based on what we're planning, other than getting to the range head, there 
> should be no changes to our camping or OHV policies.
> 
> Allen
> <FY12 07 - MapPages.pdf>
> 
> On May 9, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Gregory Lyzenga wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 9, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Chris J Kobel wrote:
>> 
>>> First of all, let me say how thankful I am for our amazing BOD, who have 
>>> worked their fannies off to preserve our launch site, to enhance our 
>>> equipment, and to greatly promote our opportunities to enjoy our hobby.  If 
>>> you don't know who they are check out  http://rocstock.org/contact-us/  and 
>>> be sure to thank them in person next time you see them. 
>>> 
>>> That said, let me say I usually dislike change, especially these days, when 
>>> things typically get worse.  However, sometimes change is good or 
>>> unavoidable, and we adapt and move on.   
>>> I'm sure the BOD is already all over this and if this discussion is 
>>> premature, please forgive me. 
>>> 
>>> the range will be moved about 1000 feet south of its traditional location. 
>>> 
>>> I assume this is because where we've been launching is actually private 
>>> land.  Shifting 1000' to the south would put us on Public Land.  No worries 
>>> there, it's a big lakebed. 
>>> My main concern is that the primary access road onto the lakebed will lead 
>>> people right into the middle of the range. 
>>> 
>>> I guess my question is:  will people use the same road on to the lakebed 
>>> and turn south earlier or will we establish a lake bed entrance further 
>>> south or will we flip the range around somehow?  I don't think 
>>> we can create "new" roads on the lakebed. 
>> 
>> Hi Chris:
>>   Richard Dierking is actively working this issue, and the final word on it 
>> should come from him.  But as I understand it, we will enter the lakebed at 
>> the usual location, but partway in there is an existing turnoff marked with 
>> a post where we will direct traffic south to the new site.  A combination of 
>> prominent signs and people out on the route to direct cars away from the 
>> range should do the trick (we hope).  Flipping the range around is not an 
>> option unless you relish the thought of looking directly into the midday sun 
>> to track your rockets.  Expect more detailed information as June draws 
>> nearer.
>> 
>>                          - Greg
>> 
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>> 
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