Okay, thanks. I'll check it out. Nancy Van Sandt, Buddy and Curly's House Joshua24:15 "But as for me and my household, We will serve the Lord." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Beach" <rbeach@xxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 12:03 PM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: RFB&D players > Hi Nancy, > > You're certainly welcome. I have done so much research into the > players because I made an unwise purchase when I first started using > digital books. Fortunately, it was not an expensive mistake, but it let > me know that there are way too many factors that need to be kept in mind > when picking out digital book players. Now I get the chance to help > others not make the same mistake I made. <grin> > > I've posted information about the different players on my web site. If > you'd like to check it out, the site is: > > http://www.kckcc.edu/faculty/beach/daisy > > The college has been doing a major overhall on the web servers, so I > hope it still works. If not, let me know. > > HTH! > > Robert Lee Beach > Assistive Technology Specialist > Kansas City Kansas Community College > 7250 State Avenue > Kansas City, KS 66112 > Phone: (913) 288-7671 > Fax: (913) 288-7678 > E-mail: rbeach@xxxxxxxxx > >>>> maxvanwon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 6/25/2007 11:33 AM >>> > Robert, thanks for posting this message. I know that it reflects your > own > opinion, but there is a lot of good information in there all in one > place, > and I really appreciate that. > Nancy Van Sandt, > Buddy and Curly's House > Joshua24:15 > "But as for me and my household, > We will serve the Lord." > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Beach" <rbeach@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:56 PM > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: RFB&D players > > >> Hello, >> >> I=92ve played around with several of the hardware and software > players, = >> and here are my personal opinions. >> >> I do not really care for the Telex Scholar. It is the cheapest of > the = >> RFB&D hardware players, but you get what you pay for. It is slow, it > = >> looks a bit juvenile to me, and it does not have fast-forward/rewind > = >> buttons. You can navigate forward and backward by markups (i.e. > chapter = >> titles and page numbers), but not by small segments like you can with > a = >> cassette player. Again, it is very slow on seek time. >> >> I have not worked with the Victor Vibe, but it is basically like the > = >> Scholar with the exception it does supposedly have > fast-forward/rewind = >> buttons. It is still very slow though. >> >> I have a Victor Wave and like it fairly well. It is faster than the > = >> Scholar and Vibe, it has fast-forward/rewind buttons, is a bit > smaller = >> than the Scholar, and looks better to me. It can use the > rechargeable = >> batteries that came with it or standard AA batteries. >> >> All three of the players I mentioned are the clam-shell style > players. = >> They look like a standard CD player such as a Discman. One of the > draw = >> backs to all three so far is you must use a headset of some sort to > listen >> = >> to them. They do not have built-in speakers. However, I purchased a > = >> small set of speakers from WalMart that do not require power and can > work >> = >> off the headset jack. While they are a bit more portable than a set > of = >> computer speakers, they do not offer the better quality of such > speakers. >> = >> It=92s a give and take. I do like using them with the Wave though as > I = >> can put it on the table and listen to a book while eating dinner and > not = >> have to wear a headset. I hate to ware headsets. <smile> >> >> The Victor Classic models are very nice players, but they are larger > than >> = >> the clam-shell models above. They have built-in speakers that work > very = >> well or you can use a headset. Again, they do look a bit juvenile to > me, >> = >> kind of like a Fisher Price toy of some kind. They do have a bit > faster = >> seek time than the clam-shell models, even the Wave. They do have = >> fast-forward/rewind buttons too. >> >> If you get the Victor Classic with the recording feature, the price > goes = >> way up. I=92ve had a student who really liked the recording feature > on a >> = >> different hardware player. He used it to record class lectures and > group >> = >> discussion sessions. You=92ll just have to think about if that is = >> important enough to spend the extra money for. >> >> Now, let me throw something else out there for you to think about. > If = >> you=92re only wanting to play RFB&D books, these players work just > fine. >> = >> However, if you=92d like to also play books from other sources such > as = >> BookShare.org and/or Audible.com, then these players do not cover > that. I >> = >> have a Book Port that I really like. It is my primary portable > player. = >> It can play RFB&D books, if you purchase a $15 key from RFB&D. And, > you = >> do not have to send the Book Port to RFB&D to get the key installed. > They >> = >> send you the key on CD and you install it on the computer that you > will = >> use to transfer books to the Book Port. It is very easy to do. >> >> The Book Port will play BookShare and Audible books as well as RFB&D > = >> books. It is very small which I like. It pulls the books from a > compact >> = >> flash card rather than a CD which means it works much much faster. > The = >> only draw back with RFB&D books is that you cannot adjust the play > back = >> speed. You can adjust the play back speed of BookShare books. >> >> Again, the Book Port does not have built-in speakers, but I use the > = >> external speakers to listen to it without a headset. Also, since it > is so >> = >> small, I can easily clip it to my belt, put on a headset, and go > about my >> = >> house work while listening to a book. I sometimes like to go out on > the = >> deck and listen to a book while relaxing. The Book Port can easily > go = >> with me and I don=92t have others wondering what on earth I=92m > listening >> = >> too. It can also act as an MP3 player if you=92d like. >> >> The BookCourier is very similar to the Book Port, but is more > designed for >> = >> the low vision/LD population while the Book Port is designed for the > blind >> = >> user. The Book Courier does not recognize as many formats as the > Book = >> Port, but it will play RFB&D and BookShare books. >> >> I hope this helps. If you live in the metro area and would like to > = >> actually see some of these players in action, let me know. I=92ll > see = >> about scheduling a time for you to visit the college and check out > the = >> Scholar, Wave, Classic, Book Port, and PlexTalk PTR1. >> >> If you=92re interested in software players, let me know and I=92ll > give = >> you a review of some of those as well. >> >> Later! >> >> >> >> Robert Lee Beach >> Assistive Technology Specialist >> Kansas City Kansas Community College >> 7250 State Avenue >> Kansas City, KS 66112 >> Phone: (913) 288-7671 >> Fax: (913) 288-7678 >> E-mail: rbeach@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> abelsa@xxxxxxxx 06/24/07 12:27 PM >>> >> Greetings All, >> I am contemplating buying a digital player from RFB&D. Curious if >> anyone has had positive or negative experience with any of the six > or >> seven various options available to purchase. Your feedback on these >> devices would be greatly appreciated along with any other > suggestions. >> >> With appreciation. >> Arnie Abels=3D20 >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription > options, = >> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> >> >> --=20 >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by KCKCC's MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription > options, >> go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> >> > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription > options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by KCKCC's MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes